Calling out APS
I agree though that a $10-12K budget is more realistic.
I was happy to see APS be able to offer a kit for under $6,000, but I suspected that it would probably just be temporary as without a profit companies don't stay around.
Sucks to see another turbo company go.. Had they just increased the price a couple grand and used premium parts they might have really had something..
so tomorrow evening i think i am going to call aps and ask for a owner or someone alone those lines.
i am starting to think that aps cares( a few have gotton help, i didnt) so i believe peter is our problem
i am starting to think that aps cares( a few have gotton help, i didnt) so i believe peter is our problem
Peter,
As the first C5 guy to receive his APS TT kit back in December of 06, and as a big proponent of the APS system, this absolutely disgusts me. I saw it happen on the C5 end of things, and felt that it was only a matter of time before it came to a head. When you abandoned the C5 market with the inlet restriction issue, it left me feeling uneasy. Currently I have your kit on my car still, sans inlets (filters on turbo's), with two leaky turbo's, all new oil scavenge lines, and a new scavenge pump. Your kit was well thought out and designed, but poorly executed and even more poorly supported. Numerous PM's I've sent to you both here and on Corvette Forum were ignored, and when I requested to purchase a set of the hard 70mm C5 inlet pipes, you disregarded me even though I was a paying customer and told you I had cash in hand.
It sickens me that no body learned from the OFI debacle. Oh wait, you did learn, people did at least get their kits. Then had to replace the most expensive components. Is that really better?
That's all I have on that.
For everyone else:
Concerning the turbo's: AFAIK, the C5 and F-Body kits turbo's are the same. From what I've seen, they're a standard (knock-off) 20G with APS's proprietary exhaust housing. Would we be able to buy a LEGIT 20G and swap the exhaust housing on?
Concerning getting the word out: APS hasn't mentioned cancelling it's other kits, so the word of this needs to get out on the EVO, 350Z, G35, and Subaru forums. Let's let the guys who may end up losing out still the word that APS has gone completely shady.
As the first C5 guy to receive his APS TT kit back in December of 06, and as a big proponent of the APS system, this absolutely disgusts me. I saw it happen on the C5 end of things, and felt that it was only a matter of time before it came to a head. When you abandoned the C5 market with the inlet restriction issue, it left me feeling uneasy. Currently I have your kit on my car still, sans inlets (filters on turbo's), with two leaky turbo's, all new oil scavenge lines, and a new scavenge pump. Your kit was well thought out and designed, but poorly executed and even more poorly supported. Numerous PM's I've sent to you both here and on Corvette Forum were ignored, and when I requested to purchase a set of the hard 70mm C5 inlet pipes, you disregarded me even though I was a paying customer and told you I had cash in hand.
It sickens me that no body learned from the OFI debacle. Oh wait, you did learn, people did at least get their kits. Then had to replace the most expensive components. Is that really better?
That's all I have on that.
For everyone else:
Concerning the turbo's: AFAIK, the C5 and F-Body kits turbo's are the same. From what I've seen, they're a standard (knock-off) 20G with APS's proprietary exhaust housing. Would we be able to buy a LEGIT 20G and swap the exhaust housing on?
Concerning getting the word out: APS hasn't mentioned cancelling it's other kits, so the word of this needs to get out on the EVO, 350Z, G35, and Subaru forums. Let's let the guys who may end up losing out still the word that APS has gone completely shady.
I feel everyone's pain here even though I'm not turboed. Was considering the APS kit, but for obvious reasons, not anymore. Would just like to thank Silverado for the posting. Also want to thank PSJ and all the others in power for letting this stay open. I believe peter the pus*y has spoken all he is worth, which amounts to nothing at this point. I would agree to dropping them as a sponsor at this point, although I'm sure there are legalities involved in some way. Just my 02 worth. 
You mean it just now is going to be removed immediately, RIGHT AFTER THIS THREAD STARTED?
How come it wasnt taken down EIGHT MONTHS AGO when the kits were "supposedly" at an end of production? Imagine that!
You are a very poor liar.
How come it wasnt taken down EIGHT MONTHS AGO when the kits were "supposedly" at an end of production? Imagine that!
You are a very poor liar.
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APS is open now son! They are in Australia so I think they are a day ahead too, so it's Friday over there.
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So has APS done the same thing with the vette kits?
What was the final word on the manifolds? Was there a minimum order of 50?
If so what was the price?
+1 on changing the flange.
What about the intercooler? Anyone know who APS had make that?
I know it's hard being civil when dealing with APS. I don't even own one and I slam APS any chance I get. Peter is in a different country and he/APS doesn't give a flying #@$@ about some Americans that drive F bodys. I wish there was someway we could actually effect APS's business so they would take notice of what they have done but I doubt we can.
What was the final word on the manifolds? Was there a minimum order of 50?
If so what was the price?
+1 on changing the flange.
What about the intercooler? Anyone know who APS had make that?
I know it's hard being civil when dealing with APS. I don't even own one and I slam APS any chance I get. Peter is in a different country and he/APS doesn't give a flying #@$@ about some Americans that drive F bodys. I wish there was someway we could actually effect APS's business so they would take notice of what they have done but I doubt we can.
I do have to say this; I was weary at the start due to Dave Inalls' involvement, but something important here is to be noted:
APS came in, made and offer, delivered a pretty good product , one of the best kits made to date, and are now leaving. We probably should be thankful. Things come and go and Peter said they would make kits as long as the market was big enough... perhaps the time has come. I suppose we should be glad, he did deliver... perhaps not perfectly, but APS did alot for the LS1 community. I agree, his bedside manor has gone to the pond, and maybe thats the real personality inside, but so be it.
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This is great news. I hope these kits are still arround or being made when I have the time and money to build the car the way I want.
The F body TT system will be produced for as long as there's sufficient customer demand.
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APS came in, made and offer, delivered a pretty good product , one of the best kits made to date, and are now leaving. We probably should be thankful. Things come and go and Peter said they would make kits as long as the market was big enough... perhaps the time has come. I suppose we should be glad, he did deliver... perhaps not perfectly, but APS did alot for the LS1 community. I agree, his bedside manor has gone to the pond, and maybe thats the real personality inside, but so be it.
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This is great news. I hope these kits are still arround or being made when I have the time and money to build the car the way I want.
The F body TT system will be produced for as long as there's sufficient customer demand.
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yeah josh is really good. my cousin has a kit from him and its amazing. i havent heard anything bad about them so i would definitly go for it...
hey peter, john asked you a question and being the founder of ls1tech i think you owe it to him to atleast answer his question. he did make you all your money pretty much. incase you forgot the question it went a little bit like this....
hey peter, john asked you a question and being the founder of ls1tech i think you owe it to him to atleast answer his question. he did make you all your money pretty much. incase you forgot the question it went a little bit like this....
