Calling out APS
09-07-2009, 09:11 AM
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That's fairly steep, you could probably score a couple MHI 20g centers for a lot less then that. I'm sure there is a decent advantage to the billet centers but the question is if it's worth it.
09-07-2009, 11:50 AM
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who was the other AUSSIE company that came out with a ttkit about the same time these fools did? back in early to mid 07 right? wow i remember i actually received the deposit form for this kit and for some reason decided to wait a bit. good thing i went procharger.
09-07-2009, 04:22 PM
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because John and Tony dont make those decisions and IB ( current owner of Ls1tech.com) is not so much on anything other than the bottom line. APS pays their moneys and remain a sponsor.
09-07-2009, 08:05 PM
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If these clowns already fucked guys in Australia too....why dont people take this seriously and consider a lawsuit?? Would love to see this ***** saying cheers with a couple of handcuffs!
09-07-2009, 08:53 PM
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one gt35r by itself is around that price.
and TAQuickness, i dont think i asked. so probly plus shipp. say 300. idk what ship is.
but LG wants around 2200 for theres. and these are ball bearing. so i think they should be worth more.
09-07-2009, 08:54 PM
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I'm wondering when MHI is gonna find out that APS is selling cheap, Chinese knock-offs as legitimate Mitsubishi turbos. That will not be good for APS.
09-08-2009, 01:04 AM
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^^^pretty sure its Quarterly but dont quote me on that.
I was talking to a sponsor that was thinking he was going to close his doors and sell off all his stock, this was a few months ago. He told me his TECH sponsorship was paid through September, which leads me to believe its quarterly.
I was talking to a sponsor that was thinking he was going to close his doors and sell off all his stock, this was a few months ago. He told me his TECH sponsorship was paid through September, which leads me to believe its quarterly.
09-08-2009, 06:26 AM
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I was just wondering if the ball bearing option in these is worth it over standard MHI 20g's.
09-08-2009, 06:29 AM
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APS will probably just close down and open up under a new name.
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09-08-2009, 07:35 AM
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They probably won't do anything, they didn't do anything to the chinese companys that were selling knock offs for the last 5 years. They even went as far as casting 'Evo 3 16g' in the side of the compressor and marketed them as Evo 3 turbos.
APS will probably just close down and open up under a new name.
APS will probably just close down and open up under a new name.
09-08-2009, 08:03 AM
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I agree that people should file a lawsuit against APS. Is anyone here on this board a lawyer? I am curious as to which path to take...
1. Suing for false advertising, since APS claimed them to be mitsu turbos, specially designed for their kits, etc when in fact they were your run of the mill chinee knock off.
2. Fraud for selling a turdblo that would quickly self destruct, and not standing behind their product in anyway useful to the customer. The only way they stood behind their product was claiming it was great, there is nothing wrong with it, the turbos are the genuine article, etc.
or perhaps another avenue of attack? Whatever method is taken, i think something neeeds to be done. You guys with APS kits shouldnt have to eat the cost of new turbo's install, new motor if the turbo destroyed ur motor when it exploded, etc.
1. Suing for false advertising, since APS claimed them to be mitsu turbos, specially designed for their kits, etc when in fact they were your run of the mill chinee knock off.
2. Fraud for selling a turdblo that would quickly self destruct, and not standing behind their product in anyway useful to the customer. The only way they stood behind their product was claiming it was great, there is nothing wrong with it, the turbos are the genuine article, etc.
or perhaps another avenue of attack? Whatever method is taken, i think something neeeds to be done. You guys with APS kits shouldnt have to eat the cost of new turbo's install, new motor if the turbo destroyed ur motor when it exploded, etc.
09-08-2009, 08:35 AM
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I agree. The way I see it, if a company as big as Borg Warner can't even stop the knock-offs, I don't think anyone can. BW is fully aware of them and actively testing them and making videos of their shortcomings, but the knock-offs ('borg warner' cast into them also) keep being produced.
09-08-2009, 09:48 AM
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Good luck with that sale on this site!
Those Billet centers kinda don't look like they have water cooling ports, do they? $2,100 for both seem a little steep, especially since I can get a set of Garrett GT35Rs for $2,800 150 miles from my house. When are you planning on getting these billet 20G centers? I'm curious how they will work out for you.
I think the main advantage is these 20G centers have dual ball bearings.
Do sponsors pay monthly, quarterly or annually?
I'm wondering when MHI is gonna find out that APS is selling cheap, Chinese knock-offs as legitimate Mitsubishi turbos. That will not be good for APS.
Those Billet centers kinda don't look like they have water cooling ports, do they? $2,100 for both seem a little steep, especially since I can get a set of Garrett GT35Rs for $2,800 150 miles from my house. When are you planning on getting these billet 20G centers? I'm curious how they will work out for you.
I think the main advantage is these 20G centers have dual ball bearings.
Do sponsors pay monthly, quarterly or annually?
I'm wondering when MHI is gonna find out that APS is selling cheap, Chinese knock-offs as legitimate Mitsubishi turbos. That will not be good for APS.
Hey there silverado! Are you still building your kit that you got from a member here? How's that going? Don't mean to hijack; but I was just wondering if you're still going to use parts of the kit.
09-08-2009, 10:18 AM
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1 billit turbo center = gt35r
so two gt35r turbos(in theory) are priced for 2100.
09-08-2009, 12:31 PM
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extremely interesting thread. Not a lawyer but I'll bet big bucks you couldn't get anywhere esp with a suit out of country. And they don't handcuff people in civil suits.
Great job calling someone out. Well written and very effective.
Great job calling someone out. Well written and very effective.
09-08-2009, 02:04 PM
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well louis did the work his 20g turbos and they make 70lbs/min.
well gt35 make 65lbs/min, so do these centers.
also i said the same power as gt35r. not same flow. so spool up could be quicker or slower. idk. if i had to guess i would say quicker since they are smaller then the gt35r
well gt35 make 65lbs/min, so do these centers.
also i said the same power as gt35r. not same flow. so spool up could be quicker or slower. idk. if i had to guess i would say quicker since they are smaller then the gt35r