Calling out APS
09-08-2009, 03:38 PM
#622
^^^pretty sure its Quarterly but dont quote me on that.
I was talking to a sponsor that was thinking he was going to close his doors and sell off all his stock, this was a few months ago. He told me his TECH sponsorship was paid through September, which leads me to believe its quarterly.
I was talking to a sponsor that was thinking he was going to close his doors and sell off all his stock, this was a few months ago. He told me his TECH sponsorship was paid through September, which leads me to believe its quarterly.
09-08-2009, 05:14 PM
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In a few years, after people have forgotten APS (and way forgotten Incon) and just have the hardparts and the numbers from the cars that got those kits to work right, someone will come back and do it again. Whoever said the fbody community has a short memory - almost. As was posted, people did hem and haw about it, but the fbody crowd is also willing to let product stand on its own merit. Perhaps to a fault.
On the other hand, the products from these businesses are a lasting legacy. People still run Incon kits and mod them, sell them and hand down only the performance and not the backstory. People forget the bad business and only see the numbers. It says a lot about the ideas that outlast the companies or people that made them.
Call me a student of history. I used to want an Incon kit very badly.
Bravo Silverado. I hope you get what you were really looking for - it looks like you are back on track- a fast twin turbo car, which is all any of us really want.
On the other hand, the products from these businesses are a lasting legacy. People still run Incon kits and mod them, sell them and hand down only the performance and not the backstory. People forget the bad business and only see the numbers. It says a lot about the ideas that outlast the companies or people that made them.
Call me a student of history. I used to want an Incon kit very badly.
Bravo Silverado. I hope you get what you were really looking for - it looks like you are back on track- a fast twin turbo car, which is all any of us really want.
09-08-2009, 11:07 PM
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As promised, the APS manifold flanges. They are both pretty much the same. Both of these pictures aren't to scale, which kind of bugs me personally. Tomorrow when I am on my work computer I'll make some nice to scale drawings.
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09-09-2009, 01:23 AM
#627
Too late mate !
He burnt his bridges a very long time ago in Australia.
He does not give anyone the time of day if they are from Australia.
Our major forum with around 40K registered members is
www.ls1.com.au
I hope you guys don't think bad of the rest of us down here cause of one bad apple.
We disowned him a long time ago !
He burnt his bridges a very long time ago in Australia.
He does not give anyone the time of day if they are from Australia.
Our major forum with around 40K registered members is
www.ls1.com.au
I hope you guys don't think bad of the rest of us down here cause of one bad apple.
We disowned him a long time ago !
Cheers.
09-09-2009, 02:31 AM
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I wonder how Peter must feel? americans now hate him, his own countrymen hate him, and anybody the 2 countrys combined can get to listen now hates him....
How must it feel to be despised by The World?
How must it feel to be despised by The World?
09-09-2009, 09:30 AM
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He's a poor businessman and that's all there is to it. Karma will come back to bite him in the ***; HARD. Whether or not he see's it for a year or two; he will eventually.
Oh and I'm all down for seeing **** hit the fan.
09-09-2009, 09:36 AM
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09-09-2009, 09:43 AM
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Did you address any of the failures yet? Aside from telling customers to remove them and ship them back on their dime. There is obviously a problem with the turbos and you, the vendor, should be doing something about it.
Where are the CHRA's actually made? looking at close up pictures they are 100% NOT MHI!
What do you attribute to the high failure rate of the turbos?
These are questions that need answers.
Where are the CHRA's actually made? looking at close up pictures they are 100% NOT MHI!
What do you attribute to the high failure rate of the turbos?
These are questions that need answers.
09-09-2009, 09:51 AM
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Cheers,
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09-09-2009, 10:01 AM
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One out of three answers isn't bad.
Due to the HIGH (13/17 due to the poll you posted earlier) failure rate, you should step up as a vendor and pay shipping for the turbos to get back to you.
If they are MHI, you would want to figure out what the problem is since it would be unlikely that they would fail. The fact that you clearly don't care about the issue tells me that you already know the problem, the turbos are of sub-par quality.
Due to the HIGH (13/17 due to the poll you posted earlier) failure rate, you should step up as a vendor and pay shipping for the turbos to get back to you.
If they are MHI, you would want to figure out what the problem is since it would be unlikely that they would fail. The fact that you clearly don't care about the issue tells me that you already know the problem, the turbos are of sub-par quality.
09-09-2009, 10:14 AM
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Cheers,
Peter
09-09-2009, 10:33 AM
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Has anyone with a turbo failure had the turbos professionally checked out to see what caused it? To make a blanket statement that the turbos were at fault is BS without actually getting the problem diagnosed. It could be the turbo, oil feed line, clearances, oil return there are a bunch of possible problems.
09-09-2009, 10:53 AM
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Peter, how much more simple can this be put? You did nothing wrong… how do you figure that???
Failed turbos isn’t the main problem here. FRAUD is the main problem.
You mislead customers by advertising and selling a turbo kit with modified 20Gs and then shipped a totally different product.
NO, you don’t need to look at failed turbos. You need to address the real problem. Why did we pay for modified 20Gs and then get something else?
Inlet ducts sucking shut (at power levels the kit was designed to support) is NOT the customers fault.
Inlet ducts interfering with swaybars (on factory un-modified cars) is NOT the customers fault.
Failed turbos isn’t the main problem here. FRAUD is the main problem.
You mislead customers by advertising and selling a turbo kit with modified 20Gs and then shipped a totally different product.
NO, you don’t need to look at failed turbos. You need to address the real problem. Why did we pay for modified 20Gs and then get something else?
Inlet ducts sucking shut (at power levels the kit was designed to support) is NOT the customers fault.
Inlet ducts interfering with swaybars (on factory un-modified cars) is NOT the customers fault.
so peter can i have my Inlet ducts for free. you didnt sell me the kit i bought. when you release the intle ducts we went over it then.
You say you havent done anything wrong. well so far you havent sold me what i bought and that is wrong. so can i please have my turbo kit that supports 18psi. so if i just need the inlet ducts. please ship them to me at your cost. and i will ship the old ones back at my cost