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Aug 31, 2009 | 07:44 AM

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I bet if you would have sent your first T56 to sixspeedsinc, you would have never had a problem. Just thinking that because theres hit 8's and pulled like a 1.3 60' and holds up.

Umm, I think his T-56 spent more time there than on the road. Not saying they didn't do good work and they didn't try every angle, from fluids, to no synchros, to anything else they could think of, but I believe the "6SPD TT" has run it's course.

Any chance to splice in a V160? You know it holds.

Aug 31, 2009 | 08:56 AM

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Thats a helluva idea.... TH400 and GVO.

But he wouldn't have lockup then.......some converters may be too loose and will slip a lot on the highway.

Aug 31, 2009 | 10:47 AM

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I bet if you would have sent your first T56 to sixspeedsinc, you would have never had a problem. Just thinking that because theres hit 8's and pulled like a 1.3 60' and holds up.

they built ALL my T56s thus far. Three of my t56s were identical build to their race car. Their motor didn't make TQ like mine does, and their car weighed more than 1k lbs less.

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yup, they always did right by me, its just not going to hold unless some other gear metallurgies become available.

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But he wouldn't have lockup then.......some converters may be too loose and will slip a lot on the highway.

humm, this does suck... I would like lock up.

Aug 31, 2009 | 10:52 AM

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My G-force T-56 is holding up with around 1000 rwhp once I decided to put a pump on it and always spray the input shaft gear/counter shaft gear. Only issue I have had with it is messing up 5th and 6th which are stock gears and you can't expect over drive gears to be able to handle that much power forever.

Aug 31, 2009 | 10:57 AM

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On a somewhat related topic,... what do you guys mean when you say some FI guy "blew thru the converter" on their automatics during a pass? That it's not ever hitting a 'stall speed' but just rev'ing rather than pulling?

Aug 31, 2009 | 10:57 AM

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from your sig you are missing 250 rw tq to compare

Aug 31, 2009 | 11:23 AM

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So what do the TT Viper guys use with their T56's ?

Im sure they have the ability to make a little bit of torque.

Aug 31, 2009 | 11:30 AM

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Lockup with a good turbo converter is useless on the street and track. I tried one.

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Aug 31, 2009 | 11:33 AM

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Welcome to the

Aug 31, 2009 | 11:35 AM

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What do you mean? What happens? What are the characteristics of a 'good Turbo Converter'?

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Lockup with a good turbo converter is useless on the street and track. I tried one.

Aug 31, 2009 | 11:40 AM

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when i priced everything out it made since for me to go with a th400 and get (when i could afford it) a GVOD
with those two it would be less then the 4l80e, and if it ever did break replacement parts are a lot cheaper, and easier to work on.

Aug 31, 2009 | 11:50 AM

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from your sig you are missing 250 rw tq to compare

I haven't dynoed it since I put the F1R on, but I know I am not as much torque as your turbo setup.

Aug 31, 2009 | 12:29 PM

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So what do the TT Viper guys use with their T56's ?

Im sure they have the ability to make a little bit of torque.

they run Gforce setups, but they still break them regularly. They even crack the case and front plate. They have made some billet pieces but $$$ and rare to find.

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Lockup with a good turbo converter is useless on the street and track. I tried one.

please explain?

Are you running a 400?

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Welcome to the

LOL...

thanks for the laugh, that is awesome.

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yea the pricing make sense, and it is a more proven setup from what I can find.

Aug 31, 2009 | 12:34 PM

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With that much torque and power. Would it be a backward step to consider a TKO600 or similar ?

Its not like 6 gears would be necessary.

Aug 31, 2009 | 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by onfire

Lockup with a good turbo converter is useless on the street and track. I tried one.

I'm referring to cruising down the highway, at rpms well below the stall speed of the converter.

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Originally Posted by smokinHawk

I have less in my 4L80E setup than what a Gear Vendors unit by itself would cost.

Also, my tranny guy said that he wouldn't be afraid of shifting into OD at WOT with a 4L80E, up to about 1200rwhp....

Aug 31, 2009 | 01:20 PM

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Tiago,
Did any of your trans setups have the Mikronite finish on them like the ones T56 Rebuilds was offering.

Aug 31, 2009 | 01:20 PM

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I'm referring to cruising down the highway, at rpms well below the stall speed of the converter.

I have less in my 4L80E setup than what a Gear Vendors unit by itself would cost.

Also, my tranny guy said that he wouldn't be afraid of shifting into OD at WOT with a 4L80E, up to about 1200rwhp....

+1. I can't see a built TH400 + GVOD being cheaper than a 4L80E even if you have to buy the controller for it as well. The 4L80E is the ultimate in maintaining streetability. I beleive that the 4L80E will also weigh less than the TH400 GVOD combo. I have also read that the GV OD is laggy in that it takes a sec to shift after you tell it to.

Aug 31, 2009 | 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mightyquickz28

The term "blowing thru the converter" means that the converter is slipping excessively up top. The converter is always slipping unless it is a lock-up so you can see that this is not a black and white kind of thing. I think that 3-8% slip is considered acceptable.

Aug 31, 2009 | 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller

less than 10% is what i've heard is acceptable as well... But I've also seen one or two guys on theturboforums.com say they've run faster with converters slipping 12-18% and lost a few tenths after tightening them up.