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Old 09-05-2009, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiago
more weight = more stress on parts = more failures...

my car is heavy as ****
damn...beat me by 4 minutes

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So how much does it actually weigh - Interested as the other ppl you are talking about being 1000 lbs lighter:? wow.
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^ I'm also interested. It sounds like it is time to put your car on a diet.
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my car weights (est):

stock TA: 3600 lbs back in 03 weighed it at the track
iron block: +130
turbo kit + 75
12 bolt + 50?
cage +85

total : 3940 lbs
with me in the car that is +310 lbs

now what is the diff of the 4l80E on top of the T56? + 100?

what a pig........

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Mine should be similar or maybe even a bit heavier.
iron block 6.0
twin turbo kit with heavy intercooler although not running cats anymore.
bmr kmember drops a bit of weight.
dana 60 the heaviest of the rear ends and currently steel driveshaft.
chrome moly torque arm,chrome moly front and rear sways.other suspension parts not chrome moly.
No rollbar likely planned.
4l80 swap very shortly.

Also have kenny brown double diamond subframe connectors, a shock tower brace and very heavy rear subs, nitrous tank.etc. Some stuff could be taken off if got serious about weight at least for track runs..
I also expect a 4300 or so raceweight. I weigh 240ish. More if put a rollbar in there.
Thats one reason the fourth gens are not great racecars if you want light. But as keep saying power makes up for it unless you are trying for that last little tenth or mph.
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my 80e ran another 7 passes this weekend without missing a beat.....
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Put something on a diet,
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4200lbs.... sheeit!

I'm putting together a 6.0 forged iron block boost motor with T56 and hoping to keep the weight around 3000lbs wet including full cage in an RX-7. I'm 150lbs

Texas Mile 2010 here we come..... .29cd aero and small frontal area to punch thru the air.
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Yeah, that weight sounds about right. Add in the 9" and all the HD suspension and you have a piggy. I know mine should be all over that.
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Originally Posted by Tiago
my car weights (est):

stock TA: 3600 lbs back in 03 weighed it at the track
iron block: +130
turbo kit + 75
12 bolt + 50?
cage +85

total : 3940 lbs
with me in the car that is +310 lbs

now what is the diff of the 4l80E on top of the T56? + 100?

what a pig........

LOL
I bet if you took about 500 lbs out of your car it would be quicker, destroy less parts, and probably be able to run a T56. That sounds about the easiest and cheapest fix you could do.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
I bet if you took about 500 lbs out of your car it would be quicker, destroy less parts, and probably be able to run a T56. That sounds about the easiest and cheapest fix you could do.
Same would be true if he took 1000 or 1500 lbs off of it. None of these are achievable without destroying the car.
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
I bet if you took about 500 lbs out of your car it would be quicker, destroy less parts, and probably be able to run a T56. That sounds about the easiest and cheapest fix you could do.
Hmm please explain how you could possibly take out 500 pounds from a car and not have it be a track only car. You can take out spare tire, jack, then you would have to take out front and back seats, carpet,underlay,
then front and rear bumper supports,go to lighter wheels,take off front sway,maybe all chrome moly parts, lighter kmember and front a arms,cf driveshaft,no cats,etc.etc. etc.
I am gutting down a 91 talon awd for racing only car and its not easy even with that to drop 400 pounds. I have done pretty much everything above,still can do a bit more with cf hood and maybe back hatch,lighter glass,but you reach the point where it just isnt' worth it. Much easier after awhile to just up the power. Every hundred pounds is a tenth But ten hp is a tenth. 100 hp would be like second. Easy to up power with fi cars.
And don't see t56 breaking from weight of the car cant' see how that can have anything at all to do with life of the t56.
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Originally Posted by MY99TAWS6
Hmm please explain how you could possibly take out 500 pounds from a car and not have it be a track only car. You can take out spare tire, jack, then you would have to take out front and back seats, carpet,underlay,
then front and rear bumper supports,go to lighter wheels,take off front sway,maybe all chrome moly parts, lighter kmember and front a arms,cf driveshaft,no cats,etc.etc. etc.
I am gutting down a 91 talon awd for racing only car and its not easy even with that to drop 400 pounds. I have done pretty much everything above,still can do a bit more with cf hood and maybe back hatch,lighter glass,but you reach the point where it just isnt' worth it. Much easier after awhile to just up the power. Every hundred pounds is a tenth But ten hp is a tenth. 100 hp would be like second. Easy to up power with fi cars.
And don't see t56 breaking from weight of the car cant' see how that can have anything at all to do with life of the t56.
There is no way every 10 hp is a 10th. Maybe that works on 13 second cars but not on anything quick. And of course the weight of a car has to do with breaking parts/transmissions. Put the same T56 with the same motor/suspension/rearend/etc in a miata and then in a suburban and go beat on both of them. Which car will break first? Its more weight to move and get accelerating,ie more strain on internals and rotating/moving parts.



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