Newb to boost, plz help with build basics
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Newb to boost, plz help with build basics I'm looking to do maybe a single or twin STS kit on my 95Z. The biggest thing for me, is that it MUST feel like it came from the factory this way. I have a H/C WS6 and when I started the bone stock camaro I fell in love with how smooth and mild mannered the car was.
So far I'm thinking a stout 355, with my heads and a very mild boost cam, making about 9.4:1 to 9.7:1 CR. An STS twin kit, and a front mount with meth if neccesary. I know this isnt the cheapest option by far, but it is the best option for me.
So far I'm thinking a stout 355, with my heads and a very mild boost cam, making about 9.4:1 to 9.7:1 CR. An STS twin kit, and a front mount with meth if neccesary. I know this isnt the cheapest option by far, but it is the best option for me.
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Thanks for your opinion, but I bought the car to enjoy it. For me, that also means turning wrenches. Nothing will bw done to the car that isnt reversible. And I wouldnt be using anything major off of the stock block, so it could go right back in if I wanted. Anyone have any insight into my potential build?
Well a front mount will fit and look like it camr from the factory. The rearmount is fine also just look into a good inter cooler stock exhaust and a tc 76 turbo and enjoy. Up grade the fuel system also some 60# with a dual walbro set up and a rail mounted fpr turn it up to 15 psi and enjoy.
STS single kit should be much simpler,do they even make twin kits for the f bodies?
Not sure if anyone has front mount kit for lt1 like big name companies but smaller ones might or you would have to fab one up.
You can stay with stock engines if you stay low on boost with sts kit. 5 to 7 is pretty good range. More than that you would want forged parts at least pistons.
As said fuel get some 60 pound injectors and racetronix pump if you are staying under 600rwhp or so.
I have been in two sts cars personally. STS stock lt1 camaro and sts stock ls1 camaro.
Both were pretty impressive. The new sts kits are better than the old kits. They have made several improvements in various areas. I would get new kit if you can afford one. You can slap it on stock engine for now,run it lower boost and then upgrade boost and engine later on.
Not sure if anyone has front mount kit for lt1 like big name companies but smaller ones might or you would have to fab one up.
You can stay with stock engines if you stay low on boost with sts kit. 5 to 7 is pretty good range. More than that you would want forged parts at least pistons.
As said fuel get some 60 pound injectors and racetronix pump if you are staying under 600rwhp or so.
I have been in two sts cars personally. STS stock lt1 camaro and sts stock ls1 camaro.
Both were pretty impressive. The new sts kits are better than the old kits. They have made several improvements in various areas. I would get new kit if you can afford one. You can slap it on stock engine for now,run it lower boost and then upgrade boost and engine later on.
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So would a small cam give me that smooth factory feel until the boost spools up and kicks me in the pants? My hp goal is like 650 to 700rwhp on like 18 to 22 psi. If I get the motor to like 325hp na, it should get me to my goal at around 17 to 18 psi right? Will this STS kit get me there out of the box? Or do I need an upgraded turbo immediately?
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A nice cam in the 116 lsa and 220 durations should be docile enough, The turbo needs to be upgraded you will never see 700+ hp out the little 67 trim. Im not sure if the kit alon out the box would get u there, the heads and intake need to be address aswell as fuel system. Some simple fixes for the sts is a larger down pipe...... Hell pm sent lmfao.
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I am completing a turbo build (real PTK kit) on my 96 Z28. Built 355 AI heads, Cam and intake. I decided on a PT88 for my goals (850-900rwhp) through a stalled auto. A 76mm sounds about perfect for what you are doing and leaves room for change. Too bad I just sold my 76GTS on here about a week ago! Call jose over at forced inductions. I bought both my 76 and 88 from him. Very knowledgable guy.
I say don't build the lt1 at all, leave it stock to put back in later...swap in a stock lq4 or even a 5.3 and boost it. Probably cheaper than building the lt1 anyway and they are proven to make alot of power. Plus there is alot more "tech support" on LSX motors. Use the leftover money to do supporting mods like fuel and anything that won't handle 6-700hp. (rear, clutch etc.).
I have ridden in a friends truck with a 6.0 (lq4) and a 76mm rear mount. Feels completely stock until he starts seeing boost, then all hell breaks loose! Pretty sure you wouldn't be disappointed with that in a car that weighs alot less. Basically all that is done to the motor is a zo6 cam and 60lbs. injectors.
I have ridden in a friends truck with a 6.0 (lq4) and a 76mm rear mount. Feels completely stock until he starts seeing boost, then all hell breaks loose! Pretty sure you wouldn't be disappointed with that in a car that weighs alot less. Basically all that is done to the motor is a zo6 cam and 60lbs. injectors.
I say don't build the lt1 at all, leave it stock to put back in later...swap in a stock lq4 or even a 5.3 and boost it. Probably cheaper than building the lt1 anyway and they are proven to make alot of power. Plus there is alot more "tech support" on LSX motors. Use the leftover money to do supporting mods like fuel and anything that won't handle 6-700hp. (rear, clutch etc.).
I have ridden in a friends truck with a 6.0 (lq4) and a 76mm rear mount. Feels completely stock until he starts seeing boost, then all hell breaks loose! Pretty sure you wouldn't be disappointed with that in a car that weighs alot less. Basically all that is done to the motor is a zo6 cam and 60lbs. injectors.
I have ridden in a friends truck with a 6.0 (lq4) and a 76mm rear mount. Feels completely stock until he starts seeing boost, then all hell breaks loose! Pretty sure you wouldn't be disappointed with that in a car that weighs alot less. Basically all that is done to the motor is a zo6 cam and 60lbs. injectors.
Add to this, he can ditch the opti and run a LS1 computer (EFI connection 24x) making his LT1 a LS1 electronically speaking. All the while not going through the expense of swapping everything needed for the LSX.
Makes me laugh how so many LSX guys think they can walk on water. I can't wait to run into one of you at a stop light in my old shitty LT1.....
I didn't mean lt1's are bad..relax!!! I was referring to the 11,xxx mile motor that's in it now and leaving it be. From a money stand point it may be cheaper to do than to have the ltx motor built. That is all!!!!
Im completely calm. I just think its funny. The comment was not aimed directly at you. More so the cocky LSX types. I should have made that more clear in my response.
Money wise I think it would be close but the LTX would likely win out as the parts are usually less expensive. Machining a SBC is about as cheap as V-8's get. You have to consider he would have to source a LSX motor and trans, get the computer&harness,k-member etc...... Then he would have to have that motor machined depending on his goals and the motors condition.
If he has the extra cash for all of that then it might be a cool swap. If not, looks like alot of extra money spent for little gain.
This website is full of guys with LT1's. Not seeing your point.
Money wise I think it would be close but the LTX would likely win out as the parts are usually less expensive. Machining a SBC is about as cheap as V-8's get. You have to consider he would have to source a LSX motor and trans, get the computer&harness,k-member etc...... Then he would have to have that motor machined depending on his goals and the motors condition.
If he has the extra cash for all of that then it might be a cool swap. If not, looks like alot of extra money spent for little gain.
This website is full of guys with LT1's. Not seeing your point.