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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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I wonder how Tiago's TH400 will do with roll racing, because my M6 to TH400 set up will be 95% roll racing
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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i would venture a guess that hes not gonna get outrun by to many cars on the road today! LOL
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Roll racing is gay. Just thought I'd throw that out there
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
I wonder how Tiago's TH400 will do with roll racing, because my M6 to TH400 set up will be 95% roll racing
all depends on how hes geared. the guys out here will run ya down on the top end just because im hittin redline
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zombie
Heresy! Blasphemy! Everyone knows that Autos are for quarter mile racing and 6spds for roll racing. How dare you defy the established false belief system!
LOL... thus far the belief system has been proven right for my experience... we will see how much the new converter setup wakes this thing up.


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i would venture a guess that hes not gonna get outrun by to many cars on the road today! LOL
problem is all the cars I hang out with are 1XXX rw cars and all are 6 speed cars... supras, ford gt's etc, so sometimes a lot is still not enough.

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Roll racing is gay. Just thought I'd throw that out there


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all depends on how hes geared. the guys out here will run ya down on the top end just because im hittin redline
3.08s in the back, will shut down before I run out of gear, 180 is fast enough anyway
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cjmatt
all depends on how hes geared. the guys out here will run ya down on the top end just because im hittin redline
whats your redline, rear gear and tire size?

i got a th400 going in my turbo ls1 mustang. should be a blast
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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FWIW, I've raced several liter bikes that MPH more than me (low 140's vs my mid 130s) but ET slower. From a roll it's a race and I've often inched ahead or stayed even every time they shifted.

My 10.0 @ 135 has the same acceleration as another vehicle that runs 10.5 @ 142. People often get caught up in the MPH game with the 6spd cars but having to disconnect the power source from the drive line multiple times during a race really affects your average power applied. It's not uncommon for turbo'd cars to gain mph and drop their et's after converting to an auto.

Of course a auto setup lives or dies on having the proper converter. Getting it correct makes all the difference. My converter is really nice, never have to go above 2500 rpms around town, stalls to 3500 on the trans brake before making boost and has 3% slip over 6600 rpms.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Zombie
stalls to 3500 on the trans brake before making boost and has 3% slip over 6600 rpms.
^^^That's freakin awesome!
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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FWIW, I've raced several liter bikes that MPH more than me (low 140's vs my mid 130s) but ET slower. From a roll it's a race and I've often inched ahead or stayed even every time they shifted.

My 10.0 @ 135 has the same acceleration as another vehicle that runs 10.5 @ 142. People often get caught up in the MPH game with the 6spd cars but having to disconnect the power source from the drive line multiple times during a race really affects your average power applied. It's not uncommon for turbo'd cars to gain mph and drop their et's after converting to an auto.

Of course a auto setup lives or dies on having the proper converter. Getting it correct makes all the difference. My converter is really nice, never have to go above 2500 rpms around town, stalls to 3500 on the trans brake before making boost and has 3% slip over 6600 rpms.
yea i have a PTC billet threw atfspeed but i need to get it restalled. was in a heavy nitrous f-body now in my turbo fox. who did you talk to to get it stalled so nice
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you have some sick *** friends, I got pulled over last year being clocked at 142 so i pretty much shut it down at 100 or so now. All I can say is thank god my mom is state popo! LOL
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Originally Posted by bad6as
whats your redline, rear gear and tire size?

i got a th400 going in my turbo ls1 mustang. should be a blast
currently have 3.73s with 26x10.50s and a 7000 limit. Im hittin the limiter at about 140.

New setup has enough gear for 200mph. but theres no way in hell an 89 mustang will ever do that.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ninetres
^^^That's freakin awesome!
yes and no, that little slip just means I'm not making enough power yet

I don't know what PTC does, but for $900 they gave me a converter that drives around just a little tighter than my old Vigilante 9.5" that stalled to 3000 and had more slip up top. I've read that several turbo guys on theturboforums.com have gone faster with more slip like 8-12%.

This one flashes to 5200rpms with 15psi. The vigilante flashed to around 5600 with the same boost.

Originally Posted by bad6as
yea i have a PTC billet threw atfspeed but i need to get it restalled. was in a heavy nitrous f-body now in my turbo fox. who did you talk to to get it stalled so nice
Dusty Bradford is who I bought mine through. Heard he was the wiz at stalling turbo cars.

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zombie
yes and no, that little slip just means I'm not making enough power yet

I don't know what PTC does, but for $900 they gave me a converter that drives around just a little tighter than my old Vigilante 9.5" that stalled to 3000 and had more slip up top. I've read that several turbo guys on theturboforums.com have gone faster with more slip like 8-12%.

This one flashes to 5200rpms with 15psi. The vigilante flashed to around 5600 with the same boost.



Dusty Bradford is who I bought mine through. Heard he was the wiz at stalling turbo cars.
I wonder how my set up will differ from yours... 370/th400/ soon to be 2.75's in the back on a front mount TC78. Although mine is a PTC 3200

P.S. I want to see more vids of your car Tiago, I love seeing vids of turbo TH400 cars

Plus, I've never driven a fast stalled AND turbo'd car. Hell, I've never driven a fast stalled car either for that matter
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Z28LS1
I wonder how my set up will differ from yours... 370/th400/ soon to be 2.75's in the back on a front mount TC78. Although mine is a PTC 3200

P.S. I want to see more vids of your car Tiago, I love seeing vids of turbo TH400 cars

Plus, I've never driven a fast stalled AND turbo'd car. Hell, I've never driven a fast stalled car either for that matter
1. with 2.75s it will feel sluggish off the line in normal driving as you'd probably expect, the tighter the stall feels the less this is an issue.

2. initially you'll keeping wanting to short shift because you are in the same gear FOREVER! Racing 50-140.. (on 28" tall tires with a 7k redline) no problem start in 2nd (brake boosting) end in 2nd (but shift to 3rd before letting off).

3. you can hold more boost on the foot brake before pushing through.

4. everyone will make fun of you for having granny gears, get used to it.

5. it's usually way faster than it feels because you don't get to feel the power curve like a manual car does.

The benefits are not buzzing the motor to drive 75mph so if you drive highway often you'll find yourself driving the car more frequently. I also find it easier to control wheel spin on the street and track. If it's going to be a drag car I'd suggest numerically higher gears, maybe 3.25's or 3.50's. 2.75's work good for a cruiser though.

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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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i have had a stock th400 sitting in the shop for months and have been planning on putting it in my rear mount lt1 car,my question is how much do you guys do to the tranny to make it hold up,my car makes 640/640..i know that the converter is everything but what about your tranny internals?

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Slow. JK T Get the converter straightened out and that thing will be a missile. Even more so than before!
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by blk6speed
i have had a stock th400 sitting in the shop for months and have been planning on putting it in my rear mount lt1 car,my question is how much do you guys do to the tranny to make it hold up,my car makes 640/640..i know that the converter is everything but what about your tranny internals?

not tryn to your hijack tread but is it a secret...........
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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I just called rossler
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:26 PM
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Hmm.. Sounds like the car liked the new converter, But the trans did not.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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I just called rossler
what now!??! lol!
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