View Poll Results: for a street/strip car which is the better choice? (regardless of install dificulty)
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procharger VS. turbo?????
02-15-2010, 03:30 PM
#22
I think it all depends on your goals, budget and how much you want to work on your car. I think properly matched/built turbo setups are probably the best power adder you can do. I also think if your on a tight budget a used procharger or vortech setup is your better bet. I know a lot of you turbo guys will agree that when the setup is good its awesome!!...but when **** goes wrong or stuff breaks it can get expensive...quick. Its also easier to tune a centri car then a turbo car. All in all either form can make you massive power...your setup just needs to be correctly matched.
02-15-2010, 07:28 PM
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I fail to see any great complexity on turbo setups, As said the factory regards them as very reliable. I do think one reason turbo cars can be not that reliable is people do tend to mickey mouse turbo setups. With manifolds that crack, knock of or no name turbos ,gates and blow offs, homemade piping and couplers and clamps.
I have seen issues with prochargers thru the years too. Belt slippage, some head unit failures to name two.
02-15-2010, 07:58 PM
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I'm on this guys side. Alot of drag radial guys run the Procharger for the predictability. Turbo's do make the best power but, got to be dead on the tune and set up. Street wise, autos do pretty good with turbos, manuals seem to do better with prochargers but, like many have stated, relentless screwing around with their car produces excellent results with either. Plumbing/packaging is a little easier on the S/C set up.
02-15-2010, 08:39 PM
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My advice is....ride in a car with a procharger then one with a turbo. Whichever feels the best to you...go with that one. Both are great power adders and I don't think either one would be a disappointment. 
02-15-2010, 09:38 PM
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i don't know anybody with either a procharger or turbo. i have driven a magnacharged 402ci gto...i loved it but didn't have enough top end.
02-15-2010, 10:26 PM
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02-15-2010, 11:26 PM
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No need for a pissing match lol. I love my procharged car and also plan on building a single turbo stripper car lol. They both have their pro's and con's. All in all it comes down to budget and goals. There are large cube single or TT cars that make monster power. There are large cube F1+ cars that make monster power lol. KP was in the low 9's with a d1 on a 347...even into the 8's with a F1.
02-16-2010, 09:26 AM
#33
Procharger vs Turbo Well I had a D1 procharger on my 95Z, and am now going turbo. Whenever I finish I will post up my views but so far this is what I experienced.
Procharger Pros:
Ease of installation.
Instant boost.
Lots of power/torque.
Supercharger whine (if you like that)
Cons:
1. Fighting belt slippage.
2. Expensive belts. ($100 a pop and only from procharger)
3. Had to make a billet spacer, one that came with the kit did not align the
belt true to the crank and supercharger.
4. Poor fit, weak brackets. (flexed under power)
5. Flexible intake tube would collapse under boost, had to make a metal one.
6. Parasitic drag causing overheating problems.
7. Horsepower Loss due to parasitic drag, How much? Procharger claimed it
took app. 150 horsepower to make my 648.
8. 12 rib set up had to be banjo tight, Not good on the snout of the crank.
9. In order to change belts you had to remove the crank pulley.
10. Went thru app 3 head units due to oil leaking problems and bearings
crashing.
11.Very unfriendly customer service directly from procharger.
They will not sell you one part, not even a simple seal.
Front Mount Turbo:
Nightmare of install.
still in works
Procharger Pros:
Ease of installation.
Instant boost.
Lots of power/torque.
Supercharger whine (if you like that)
Cons:
1. Fighting belt slippage.
2. Expensive belts. ($100 a pop and only from procharger)
3. Had to make a billet spacer, one that came with the kit did not align the
belt true to the crank and supercharger.
4. Poor fit, weak brackets. (flexed under power)
5. Flexible intake tube would collapse under boost, had to make a metal one.
6. Parasitic drag causing overheating problems.
7. Horsepower Loss due to parasitic drag, How much? Procharger claimed it
took app. 150 horsepower to make my 648.
8. 12 rib set up had to be banjo tight, Not good on the snout of the crank.
9. In order to change belts you had to remove the crank pulley.
10. Went thru app 3 head units due to oil leaking problems and bearings
crashing.
11.Very unfriendly customer service directly from procharger.
They will not sell you one part, not even a simple seal.
Front Mount Turbo:
Nightmare of install.
still in works
02-16-2010, 10:22 AM
#34
Well I had a D1 procharger on my 95Z, and am now going turbo. Whenever I finish I will post up my views but so far this is what I experienced.
Procharger Pros:
Ease of installation.
Instant boost.
Lots of power/torque.
Supercharger whine (if you like that)
Cons:
1. Fighting belt slippage.
2. Expensive belts. ($100 a pop and only from procharger)
3. Had to make a billet spacer, one that came with the kit did not align the
belt true to the crank and supercharger.
4. Poor fit, weak brackets. (flexed under power)
5. Flexible intake tube would collapse under boost, had to make a metal one.
6. Parasitic drag causing overheating problems.
7. Horsepower Loss due to parasitic drag, How much? Procharger claimed it
took app. 150 horsepower to make my 648.
8. 12 rib set up had to be banjo tight, Not good on the snout of the crank.
9. In order to change belts you had to remove the crank pulley.
10. Went thru app 3 head units due to oil leaking problems and bearings
crashing.
11.Very unfriendly customer service directly from procharger.
They will not sell you one part, not even a simple seal.
Front Mount Turbo:
Nightmare of install.
still in works
Procharger Pros:
Ease of installation.
Instant boost.
Lots of power/torque.
Supercharger whine (if you like that)
Cons:
1. Fighting belt slippage.
2. Expensive belts. ($100 a pop and only from procharger)
3. Had to make a billet spacer, one that came with the kit did not align the
belt true to the crank and supercharger.
4. Poor fit, weak brackets. (flexed under power)
5. Flexible intake tube would collapse under boost, had to make a metal one.
6. Parasitic drag causing overheating problems.
7. Horsepower Loss due to parasitic drag, How much? Procharger claimed it
took app. 150 horsepower to make my 648.
8. 12 rib set up had to be banjo tight, Not good on the snout of the crank.
9. In order to change belts you had to remove the crank pulley.
10. Went thru app 3 head units due to oil leaking problems and bearings
crashing.
11.Very unfriendly customer service directly from procharger.
They will not sell you one part, not even a simple seal.
Front Mount Turbo:
Nightmare of install.
still in works
02-16-2010, 11:13 AM
#35
Keep in mind, you're talking about an LT1 setup, not LS1. The 12-rib belts for the LT1 setup are $84 from ProCharger. 8-rib belts can be purchased for $56 from ProCharger or much less at NAPA. Also, only the OLD LT1 F-body kits had that crappy orange flexible hose on the inlet.
02-16-2010, 11:18 AM
#36
You are correct, that's why I stated a 95 model year, and also this was quite a few years ago. Back then procharger was charging $99.00 for the 12 ribs so I guess they went down a little.Actually when I did have the 8 rib setup, I paid like $30.00 at NAPA so I guess they went up or maybe it depends on what state you are in..
Im still having pretty good luck with mine so far.
I went ahead and spent the coin on a different bracket made by "Aster" on here. It relieves alot of pressure off of the end of the crank I think and it has bad *** belt wrap.
02-16-2010, 11:24 AM
#37
Thats all the good stuff I went thru. It was a nightmare with ATI, I will just say after 3 Head units failing, Impeller spun on the shaft on one, the other two, the bearings crashed, On the fourth one, before I ever installed it, I replaced all the bearings with upgraded ones and replaced the seals myself and never had a problem after that...
