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Old 02-16-2011, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1CAM
something different large bore 5.3 329cu in
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6.0l block, 4.8 crank (can buy brand new from gm $200.00 C or A engine code) compstar 6.300 rods, shelf stock 6.0l (1.31 compression height) pistons, stock casting heads, with comp valve spring kit, stock rockers with comp rocker upgrade, good push rods, arp head studs, mls gaskets, ls6 camshaft, ls7 lifters super victor intake, 4150 throttle body, carb hat, 160 lbs injectors (should have less then $4000 in complete bolt in engine)

fuel system (fuel pump, lines and regulator) $1000 to $1500

fuel managment system (holley dominator or ect) $2000 to $3000 options

stock manifolds, s400 80 ett (1200 hp rating $900) and all to plumbing air to air or get crazy air to water $2000 to $2500

Then you need a car that has the suspension, brakes, trans, rear end, tires, wheels, cage,
I thought about this same combo with a blow-thru carb. The carb alone would save $1500-$2000.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1CAM
something different large bore 5.3 329cu in
engine
6.0l block, 4.8 crank (can buy brand new from gm $200.00 C or A engine code) compstar 6.300 rods, shelf stock 6.0l (1.31 compression height) pistons, stock casting heads, with comp valve spring kit, stock rockers with comp rocker upgrade, good push rods, arp head studs, mls gaskets, ls6 camshaft, ls7 lifters super victor intake, 4150 throttle body, carb hat, 160 lbs injectors (should have less then $4000 in complete bolt in engine)

fuel system (fuel pump, lines and regulator) $1000 to $1500

fuel managment system (holley dominator or ect) $2000 to $3000 options

stock manifolds, s400 80 ett (1200 hp rating $900) and all to plumbing air to air or get crazy air to water $2000 to $2500


Originally Posted by boostdoctor
I thought about this same combo with a blow-thru carb. The carb alone would save $1500-$2000.


That's funny...I have eyed this combo for a couple of years, both as a small cube blow-thru boosted engine and as high winding N2o motor...

I'm mighty tempted to build this...I have always liked the path less traveled...
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Originally Posted by viper,redZ
Yup...all you need to get is in that thread.
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Originally Posted by Nitroused383
So funny you mention the grenade, I know Marty as he is local to me. That guy is nuts man, he turbo'd a 500 inch caddy, his daily driver is a v6 camaro he slapped an ebay turbo on with nitrous on. Runs low 12s with an s10 converter in it haha. He did a huge wheel stand this year in his low 9 second twin to4e turbo 3rd gen. Ended up bending the frame so he hooked it up to a post and winched it back into shape hah. That guy is legend around here!! He's been in a few hot rods and car craft mags also. Sorry to get off topic.
Yep...Marty sounds like my kind of guy...

I've built more than a few junkyard motors over the years...And have always been amazed at how much abuse a stock engine can take...

I once threw one of the small Weiand 144 superchargers along with .493-.512" Z28 1st design off road cam on a 76 truck engine with 80,000mi.

Had it in a 82 malibu with a th350, cheap 2800 stall conv. lincoln locked rear end (poor mans spool)

Never took it to the strip just played on the street with it...

It wouldn't die....So we threw a 175 shot on it...It sounded like a mighty pissed off bee when it got wound up...

My seat of the pants meter would put it as a high 10 ride...

Can't tell you how many bottles we abused it with

Never did blow the damn thing up. Ended up busting a sprag race in the th350. Pulled the blower and cam out, put in a RV cam and threw it in a buddys 4x4 that he beat on for a couple of years until he tried a really deep water crossing and hydrolocked it...

Another time was sitting around the shop being bored and spotted a old cast crank 454 out of a old Suburban sitting on a stand in the corner and got a wild hair to throw my fogger system on it.

Long story short we threw a old comp 292 hyd. cam in it and my fogger intake with a 850 and stuffed the hole works into a buddys tubbed 68 camaro with a glide.

Cant tell you how many times we hit that poor engine with 350-400 hp hits...You could almost hear it moaning when you hit the trigger...

It never gave up the ghost either...Yanked it out when my buddy finished his engine...Got thrown back in the corner after it's 15 min. of fame...Ended up giving it to a guy that was looking for something to throw into his boat.

The cool thing about these type of deals is just how much damn fun it is...

No worrys about your big dollar crank exiting stage left...Just lots of grins and giggles everytime you beat on it...

Dang it...Got me looking at a poor 5.3 sitting in the shop...Wonder how much giggle juice I can stuff in it...
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Originally Posted by boostdoctor
I thought about this same combo with a blow-thru carb. The carb alone would save $1500-$2000.
patrick a pro system was going to do one for me for like 950 to 1000 but only go to 1000 to 1100 hp
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cheap side would be about 12k engine + turbo.... then more for supporting mods like trannys, rear, chassis
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I have about 7k in my setup so far, 402 CI stroke kit from tsp, Turbo Cam, l92 heads, t6 88 mm Turbonetics Turbo(used) and all the hotpipes/flanges to do stainless headers. Also its a blow thru Carb setup. I think all I need is a good set of heads that wouldn't lift and 1000hp is attainable.
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Originally Posted by TurboAv
There is no such thing as cheap. There is, however, being smart about things. Lay out a plan with somebody that's done it before and stick to it. Buy stuff once, not two or three times. The single hardest thing to do is spend the money on the supporting stuff first. Rearend, tranny, suspsension. That stuff really doesn't make you faster, so it's hard to swallow at first. Better to do it and not break stuff once the power is on tap though. I've learned the hard way.
This is by far the best advice, and is how we have been building the TA. It has taken 4 years, but we have followed the plan we set up at the start. There has been very little deviation, and even less re-buying of parts. We didn't hammer out details of the motor until the time we planned on buying. We knew that after X mods (and about X time) we would be doing the motor. So we started researching and learning as much as possible, and then really started to work out all of the details right before purchasing.

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wow people are dicks....if they read past your post damn.
ovioulsy you have some money....so that wont be a problem. but your like most people....on a build your not worried about buying ARP bolts for your ls6intake.lol
go 370 or 408.
408 would sound pretty healthy, turbo to match. good trans and rear if you dont have one. and FUEL! lol
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Starting with a clean slate...Looking for the best bang for the buck..

Block, ci. turbo, heads, cam etc...

Figuring a 6.0 block...but what ci. 370, 408 etc. Which turbo...Again figuring the best cost vs price...How about heads...? What kind of boost...?

What would you build for the lowest cost engine for getting that hp level that would last...?


wow 90% of these posts are retards dancing around the questions. He never asked about a trans, rear end....etc.

I'd think any built shortblock would work, stock crank. I think the guy from sweden said no need for after market heads under 1500hp... and proved that. No need for a fancy turbo setup when it can and has been done with manifolds. A decent turbo and some exhaust work and your golden.

If i didnt have any thing... I'd pick up an AES shortblock. factory heads....317s. Im sure some place sells them all redone, ported, good valves. Spec's out turbo cam. Same w/ turbo.

It can all be done for A LOT less than most people think. I do it all the time.



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