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Old Mar 6, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Anyone running high HP on the stock computer? 1200+? Could it handle 2000hp with the right injectors?
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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I am thinking of going stock computer, FIC Bosch 2200cc injectors and an AMS 1000. 2000hp on E85
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I would run a better a different pump for that much power. I honestly think the A1000 will be maxed out at just under or slightly over 1k.
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I would run a better a different pump for that much power. I honestly think the A1000 will be maxed out at just under or slightly over 1k.
I think he's referring to the boost controller AMS1000.

however if he means an A1000 fuel pump; on e85 it prob wouldn't even support 600rwhp.
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Originally Posted by dreamls1
Anyone running high HP on the stock computer? 1200+? Could it handle 2000hp with the right injectors?
We have made 1500rwhp on RC twin turbo corvette at 24lbs of boost. Stock computer is limiting us as this boost level.
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There is no reason you cant make 2000 hp on the stock pcm unless the engine needed more then 30 psi to do it or you ran out of ignition.

I dont think the 2000's will support 2000 hp on e85 unless you are running them with a ton of pressure. The stock computer is just giving up a few features like WOT closed loop, built in limiters/2-3 step, ect.
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Originally Posted by KissMySSo1
I think he's referring to the boost controller AMS1000.

however if he means an A1000 fuel pump; on e85 it prob wouldn't even support 600rwhp.
I mis-read that. Yeah the AMS 1000 would be fine. But now I'm thinking of what fuel pump you will be running on this setup. And on a Stock ECU you should be fine reaching those power levels but I would say it is not an ideal setup. If you are going all the way than I would consider a BS3, or the Dominator by Holley, etc... Unless you are trying to go for some kind of record.
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Originally Posted by Worm Boy
We have made 1500rwhp on RC twin turbo corvette at 24lbs of boost. Stock computer is limiting us as this boost level.
What is the limiting factor? Why only 1500Hp?
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I will be running a Weldon belt drive pump. Plenty of pressure
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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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This is something I would like to see... I personally wouldn't do it. 2k+ hp is definitely BS3/FAST territory imo. I couldn't see myself dropping that kind of coin on a high hp setup to only use the factory controller.
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Im not into the dyno scene but I have been over 166 mph with a 3750# car on E-98.
Could go faster with some more fuel and or gear. Belt drive pump and some of the 225 atomizers and you will fly
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Originally Posted by koolrayz
Im not into the dyno scene but I have been over 166 mph with a 3750# car on E-98.
Could go faster with some more fuel and or gear. Belt drive pump and some of the 225 atomizers and you will fly
Have you tried e-85 in the car?
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No one is giving me reasons not to use the stock computer. I just don't see why it won't work if you can control the injectors.
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As long as I'm running 7s I don't care how much Hp
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is DFI an option? i dont see any talk about it on here
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No input? Why won't the stock computer work?
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You actually received some good input from some of the front runners.
That type of power CAN be made with a stock ECU, but you will not have closed loop
fuel control, or individual cylinder fuel/spark control that an aftermarket system would allow. Both are a good idea at this power.
Also, since the stock ECU will only allow a certain amount of boost, the limiting factor becomes how much kpa is allowed by the ECU and the o/s loaded into it.
So basically, it becomes a race. (pun intended....)
If you can make enough power to go 7's at a lower boost level that can be controlled by the stock ecu, let's say 3bar, then you win.
If you have a newer ecu in which the o/s is limiting your max boost, like 24psi on Worm Boy's example, causing you to fall short on power, then you lose and must upgrade to a stock ecu that allows more boost, or go to an aftermarket system.
Going 7's is a bit out of my league, but I would have to presume that you can achieve your goal with an efficient combo and/or lighter car.

Jim
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Originally Posted by camarols1
You actually received some good input from some of the front runners.
That type of power CAN be made with a stock ECU, but you will not have closed loop
fuel control, or individual cylinder fuel/spark control that an aftermarket system would allow. Both are a good idea at this power.
Also, since the stock ECU will only allow a certain amount of boost, the limiting factor becomes how much kpa is allowed by the ECU and the o/s loaded into it.
So basically, it becomes a race. (pun intended....)
If you can make enough power to go 7's at a lower boost level that can be controlled by the stock ecu, let's say 3bar, then you win.
If you have a newer ecu in which the o/s is limiting your max boost, like 24psi on Worm Boy's example, causing you to fall short on power, then you lose and must upgrade to a stock ecu that allows more boost, or go to an aftermarket system.
Going 7's is a bit out of my league, but I would have to presume that you can achieve your goal with an efficient combo and/or lighter car.

Jim
Jim, thanks for the input. Thanks that I was looking to hear. That help thanks
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