High HP on Stock ECU
03-07-2011, 12:42 PM
#5
however if he means an A1000 fuel pump; on e85 it prob wouldn't even support 600rwhp.
03-07-2011, 12:49 PM
#7
There is no reason you cant make 2000 hp on the stock pcm unless the engine needed more then 30 psi to do it or you ran out of ignition.
I dont think the 2000's will support 2000 hp on e85 unless you are running them with a ton of pressure. The stock computer is just giving up a few features like WOT closed loop, built in limiters/2-3 step, ect.
I dont think the 2000's will support 2000 hp on e85 unless you are running them with a ton of pressure. The stock computer is just giving up a few features like WOT closed loop, built in limiters/2-3 step, ect.
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03-07-2011, 01:01 PM
#9
I mis-read that. Yeah the AMS 1000 would be fine. But now I'm thinking of what fuel pump you will be running on this setup. And on a Stock ECU you should be fine reaching those power levels but I would say it is not an ideal setup. If you are going all the way than I would consider a BS3, or the Dominator by Holley, etc... Unless you are trying to go for some kind of record.
03-07-2011, 04:58 PM
#12
This is something I would like to see... I personally wouldn't do it. 2k+ hp is definitely BS3/FAST territory imo. I couldn't see myself dropping that kind of coin on a high hp setup to only use the factory controller.
03-09-2011, 04:51 PM
#19
You actually received some good input from some of the front runners.
That type of power CAN be made with a stock ECU, but you will not have closed loop
fuel control, or individual cylinder fuel/spark control that an aftermarket system would allow. Both are a good idea at this power.
Also, since the stock ECU will only allow a certain amount of boost, the limiting factor becomes how much kpa is allowed by the ECU and the o/s loaded into it.
So basically, it becomes a race. (pun intended....)
If you can make enough power to go 7's at a lower boost level that can be controlled by the stock ecu, let's say 3bar, then you win.
If you have a newer ecu in which the o/s is limiting your max boost, like 24psi on Worm Boy's example, causing you to fall short on power, then you lose and must upgrade to a stock ecu that allows more boost, or go to an aftermarket system.
Going 7's is a bit out of my league, but I would have to presume that you can achieve your goal with an efficient combo and/or lighter car.
Jim
That type of power CAN be made with a stock ECU, but you will not have closed loop
fuel control, or individual cylinder fuel/spark control that an aftermarket system would allow. Both are a good idea at this power.
Also, since the stock ECU will only allow a certain amount of boost, the limiting factor becomes how much kpa is allowed by the ECU and the o/s loaded into it.
So basically, it becomes a race. (pun intended....)
If you can make enough power to go 7's at a lower boost level that can be controlled by the stock ecu, let's say 3bar, then you win.
If you have a newer ecu in which the o/s is limiting your max boost, like 24psi on Worm Boy's example, causing you to fall short on power, then you lose and must upgrade to a stock ecu that allows more boost, or go to an aftermarket system.
Going 7's is a bit out of my league, but I would have to presume that you can achieve your goal with an efficient combo and/or lighter car.
Jim
03-09-2011, 09:25 PM
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You actually received some good input from some of the front runners.
That type of power CAN be made with a stock ECU, but you will not have closed loop
fuel control, or individual cylinder fuel/spark control that an aftermarket system would allow. Both are a good idea at this power.
Also, since the stock ECU will only allow a certain amount of boost, the limiting factor becomes how much kpa is allowed by the ECU and the o/s loaded into it.
So basically, it becomes a race. (pun intended....)
If you can make enough power to go 7's at a lower boost level that can be controlled by the stock ecu, let's say 3bar, then you win.
If you have a newer ecu in which the o/s is limiting your max boost, like 24psi on Worm Boy's example, causing you to fall short on power, then you lose and must upgrade to a stock ecu that allows more boost, or go to an aftermarket system.
Going 7's is a bit out of my league, but I would have to presume that you can achieve your goal with an efficient combo and/or lighter car.
Jim
That type of power CAN be made with a stock ECU, but you will not have closed loop
fuel control, or individual cylinder fuel/spark control that an aftermarket system would allow. Both are a good idea at this power.
Also, since the stock ECU will only allow a certain amount of boost, the limiting factor becomes how much kpa is allowed by the ECU and the o/s loaded into it.
So basically, it becomes a race. (pun intended....)
If you can make enough power to go 7's at a lower boost level that can be controlled by the stock ecu, let's say 3bar, then you win.
If you have a newer ecu in which the o/s is limiting your max boost, like 24psi on Worm Boy's example, causing you to fall short on power, then you lose and must upgrade to a stock ecu that allows more boost, or go to an aftermarket system.
Going 7's is a bit out of my league, but I would have to presume that you can achieve your goal with an efficient combo and/or lighter car.
Jim