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Old 03-20-2011, 07:32 PM
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Default Take a look at my heads,cam combo.370ci,80mm

I'm running a 370 iron block, forged rods/pistons stock crank.
My tuner speced out a 232/238, 595/602 lift on a 115 plus 4 lsa.

Due to money I want to run my current 241s that have been ported and polished years ago. I don't know flow numbers.

This wil be used with an ls6 intake and a bad *** comp turbo triple ceramic ball bearing 80mm turbo with billet wheel and 3.5inch dp. Its rated at 1250hp.

Im hoping for 850whp on 116 octane and 18psi through a locked auto and 9 inch.

What do you think will limit me if anything,heads not flowing enough?

How about that cam?

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what are you doing for fuel management?
who ported the heads? cnc job?
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Don't know any specs on the heads other than the shop I bought them from said there was $1700 in ported and polishing done. Could have bs.

Lets just say they have a mild port job.

manegment is stock computer,80lbs injectors,big rails,2 pumps. The usual.
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Sounds like a pretty good combo that turbo should make that easy. The cam wouldn't be my choice but we all have our own way of doing things.
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I run 241's that were ported by Rapid motorsports on my 402 twin turbo. They netted me a 9.13 @ 151 mph at 15 psi so far. That was through a th400and a loose converter. I'm hoping for 8's when I get the motor rebuilt. (spun a bearing I think). Don't worry too much about hp. Worry about the times it runs, cause that's where it matters.....
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my question would be what valves in the heads. stock?
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98Z28Cobrakiller is running a 232/232 .595 (TU2) with AFR 225's and 88mm going high 8's.

I'd be wary of running a conv split cam with only a 79mm turbine and 18 psi or more.
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Why is that?

I was actually thinking more duration on exhaust would help since I'm not running the best head in the world
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big cam = big turbine
not so great head = more boost
more boost = back pressure
79mm turbine = higher back pressure ratio (BPR)
higher BPR calls for a single or reverse split cam.
It just reaches a point of diminishing returns and cam should be adjusted to match.

Conventional split has good results, better results on big turbine setups -at least 87mm.

75mm turbine chokes a 355 at 5k w/18psi. -info is on TTF if you search for it-

232/232 will go 8's and drive better than what you listed....according to 98Z28....
Most upgrade heads and compressor later, buy cam once per engine.
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Good info. The cam has already been ordered but im going to talk to my tuner who ordered it and see what he was thinking
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Just because it's not what other people would or are running dosen't mean it wont make good power. Everyone tells me my little 215@.050 cam is way too small but it has no problem showing well over 1000hp down the track in a 4x4 truck. It just doesn't need a trans braker, 2step, or those other appraratuses to launch off a 3200rpm foot brake.
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Originally Posted by stock48
Just because it's not what other people would or are running dosen't mean it wont make good power. Everyone tells me my little 215@.050 cam is way too small but it has no problem showing well over 1000hp down the track in a 4x4 truck. It just doesn't need a trans braker, 2step, or those other appraratuses to launch off a 3200rpm foot brake.
Can't convince people on the little cam thing.....but hard to argue with 8's and 232........and you have a bigger turbine than the OP does. 87mm IIRC but some are 83ish. Some want the sound of a cam too, I can see that.

What rpm do you shift at?
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Originally Posted by TurboS10
Can't convince people on the little cam thing.....but hard to argue with 8's and 232........and you have a bigger turbine than the OP does. 87mm IIRC but some are 83ish. Some want the sound of a cam too, I can see that.

What rpm do you shift at?
232/232 is good too. Imagen the driveability of the 215 with the A/C running in the summer, or the quick spoolup time when you don't have buddies at the track to hold the lights for you.
The small cam/small turbin is what I was trying to get at. I also run a Tc76 with a 68mm wheel.
Mid 9's at 4850lbs is also 8sec power in a 1000lb less of chassis. Thats not figuring in the wind, and parastatic losses from the truck, and 4wd running gear. Shift points are 6-6200, and hits the traps at 6800.
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Originally Posted by stock48
232/232 is good too. Imagen the driveability of the 215 with the A/C running in the summer, or the quick spoolup time when you don't have buddies at the track to hold the lights for you.
The small cam/small turbin is what I was trying to get at. I also run a Tc76 with a 68mm wheel.
Mid 9's at 4850lbs is also 8sec power in a 1000lb less of chassis. Thats not figuring in the wind, and parastatic losses from the truck, and 4wd running gear. Shift points are 6-6200, and hits the traps at 6800.
Is spool instant with the TC? Like 1800 rpm?

I got spec'd a 219/219 113 to peak at 6200 on a 6.0 w/317 n/a and shift higher of course assuming < 2.0 BPR. I asked specifically for a cam that would peak at 6200 n/a.

I've got the same 80mm turbo as OP NIB gathering dust in the garage. Waiting until I finish the truck and start on the next project (with the boys) to use it. Can't decide, but it looks to be a better match for a 347 for some rpm.
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Originally Posted by TurboS10
Is spool instant with the TC? Like 1800 rpm?

I got spec'd a 219/219 113 to peak at 6200 on a 6.0 w/317 n/a and shift higher of course assuming < 2.0 BPR. I asked specifically for a cam that would peak at 6200 n/a.

I've got the same 80mm turbo as OP NIB gathering dust in the garage. Waiting until I finish the truck and start on the next project (with the boys) to use it. Can't decide, but it looks to be a better match for a 347 for some rpm.
My 215/215, 114 peaks around 58~6K NA but my heads flow pretty well for 317's. I could see a 219 holding a couple hundred more RPM. Yes spool is almost insant with the Tc76, my converter flashes up to 2500 pretty quick so it's hard to see where exact spool is. Perfict daily driver combo tho. I desinged my setup for that combo, was really supprised how well the PT88 worked with everything.



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