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Old May 19, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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What are the current stock stroke forged crank options these days? I'm having what I think is the same problem again and this time it came around very quick.

Around November of last year I was at a track rental when I noticed that I lost a little bit of oil pressure (about 7 psi). I tore the motor down and found a beat up #4 main bearing. Had the stock crank checked and it was bent .006. The bearing never spun so I figured that the line bore was good. Bought another stock crank, had it balanced and put it back together. I was getting her ready to go to the track and making some pulls on the street to get the tune close (I switched engine management systems while it was down). Turned it up to 15 psi (7 less than when it got hurt last time) and made a very clean pull in 1st (Powerglide) to 7500 RPM. When I let off, I noticed that I was down 7-9 psi again. I've changed the oil and found some copper dust in there so I'm guessing it's the same **** again. The stock cranks are supposed to be good at my power level. Not sure if the weight of the car is loading it too much or if it's just a line bore problem. Figure now is the time to look into dropping a stock stroke forged crank in there if the line bore checks out. I intend to reuse the rods, pistons and rings as cylinder walls are fine and she doesn't smoke at all.

Let me know what options are available.

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Old May 19, 2011 | 07:00 PM
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Just out of curiousity, what kind of power level are you in? I'm sure that I'm not anywhere near yours, but just wondering co'z I've just ordered a 370 LQ9shortblock from AES to replace my hurt 347. I'm now wondering if I should have gone with the 398.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 10:31 PM
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stock LSA crank is forged

In for info as well...
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Old May 20, 2011 | 01:54 AM
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callies makes them



Originally Posted by Boo"SS"t
Just out of curiousity, what kind of power level are you in? I'm sure that I'm not anywhere near yours, but just wondering co'z I've just ordered a 370 LQ9shortblock from AES to replace my hurt 347. I'm now wondering if I should have gone with the 398.
8.9x at 3800lbs...

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Old May 20, 2011 | 02:06 AM
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eagle makes a stock stroke forged crank.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 03:04 AM
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The callies would be my choice. I think the RPM combined with heavy parts is whats killing your crank. The main caps could be stretched too. That things gotta sound wicked tho at 7500RPM
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Old May 20, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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7500 RPM stock stroke at sub 1000 rwhp shouldn't be effecting the mains. I really shouldn't be having problems with the stock cranks at this power level either. I've heard that K1 makes a good crank for this power level as well.

I don't think that the LSA crank is interchangeable with the LS1 cranks. Could someone verify?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
7500 RPM stock stroke at sub 1000 rwhp shouldn't be effecting the mains. I really shouldn't be having problems with the stock cranks at this power level either. I've heard that K1 makes a good crank for this power level as well.

I don't think that the LSA crank is interchangeable with the LS1 cranks. Could someone verify?
You have to modify the snout is the only thing I would see to make it fit
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
You have to modify the snout is the only thing I would see to make it fit
Different flywheel bolt patter IIRC, we had a topic in this section about it a couple months ago. ill see if i can dig it up.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...rankshaft.html
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
7500 RPM stock stroke at sub 1000 rwhp shouldn't be effecting the mains. I really shouldn't be having problems with the stock cranks at this power level either. I've heard that K1 makes a good crank for this power level as well.

I don't think that the LSA crank is interchangeable with the LS1 cranks. Could someone verify?
Los, I just looked up those K1 cranks and noticed they make a billet rod for our motors as well and they're only $520 where I found them, you ever hear anything about them? If they're any kind of decent i'll put those in the motor I build, that price is amazing for a billet rod, next cheapest is the Howards at around $820.
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Originally Posted by JAX04
Different flywheel bolt patter IIRC, we had a topic in this section about it a couple months ago. ill see if i can dig it up.
Didn't know that. Good find.
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What about a ls9 crank ?
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I do know for a fact that k1 rods are made in China. This was told to me buy k1

And isn't the ls9 dry sump or am thinking of something else?
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Billet main caps? Are they pinned? If not you might want to look into an LSX 376 short block that already comes with those.
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Los, I just looked up those K1 cranks and noticed they make a billet rod for our motors as well and they're only $520 where I found them, you ever hear anything about them? If they're any kind of decent i'll put those in the motor I build, that price is amazing for a billet rod, next cheapest is the Howards at around $820.
I was talking to Evo Jeff today about that stuff. It's Carrillo's low dollar stuff from what I have understood. Those rods with good hardware are supposedly good to 250 hp each. That's decent. I got a price of $750 for an Eagle crank. Waiting to here back on the K1 from our local speed shop.

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I do know for a fact that k1 rods are made in China. This was told to me buy k1

And isn't the ls9 dry sump or am thinking of something else?
I could give a **** where it's made if it works. I'm all for supporting legislature to increase the price of Chinese goods in order to help American companies compete but until that happens, I gotta go with bang for the buck.

If this crank is bad, I'm going aftermarket. Buying a stock piece in order to then have to modify it and change the reluctor to make it work just doesn't make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
I was talking to Evo Jeff today about that stuff. It's Carrillo's low dollar stuff from what I have understood. Those rods with good hardware are supposedly good to 250 hp each. That's decent. I got a price of $750 for an Eagle crank. Waiting to here back on the K1 from our local speed shop.


I could give a **** where it's made if it works. I'm all for supporting legislature to increase the price of Chinese goods in order to help American companies compete but until that happens, I gotta go with bang for the buck.

If this crank is bad, I'm going aftermarket. Buying a stock piece in order to then have to modify it and change the reluctor to make it work just doesn't make sense to me.
Damn, 250hp each = 2000hp, looks like I found the rods i'm using!!! Thanks for the info los, might just do those rods with a 3.9" K1 crank in an iron block, should be a pretty stout bitch and put it together for fairly cheap! Or maybe just use a stock stroke crank so I can use off the shelf pistons and not have to pay for custom.
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Not sure how much work is involved to make it work, but the LSA crank is cheap...
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
7500 RPM stock stroke at sub 1000 rwhp shouldn't be effecting the mains. I really shouldn't be having problems with the stock cranks at this power level either. I've heard that K1 makes a good crank for this power level as well.

I don't think that the LSA crank is interchangeable with the LS1 cranks. Could someone verify?

Your power level is definitely in the upper end of the stock crank's spectrum. I'd be willing to be whhat makes your combo different than the others who's cranks are surviving is the RPM. It would probably live a long, happy life at 6500 as opposed to 7500.
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ima mention this since nobody has, are you sure your not sucking the pan dry at the upper rpms?
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