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Old 06-02-2011, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
guess GM wasted their money pinning the mains on the LSX then
No, cause the caps on the LSX block don't register in the block, they register on the dowel.

Most LS blocks including (6.0 blocks) register in the block.
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If you are talking about those power levels to the ground (1500+), won't the mains try to twist? Just wondering about the whole setup and those types of power levels.
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oh snap!
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
oh snap!
awfully quiet in here all of a sudden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
awfully quiet in here all of a sudden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg


Well, he already has his block and heads, and if I was that far into a build I wouldn't care what anyone said I would at least get it put together and see how far it could be pushed and run.

I love seeing people doing it their way and getting it done right, and having a solid combo hold together for a couple good seasons of racing. I do look foward to seeing how fast they can get this thing to go.

I just hope it doesn't end shortly because of instability in the bottom end.

Godspeed guys.
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^^^^ LMAO at Frazier!!!
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
awfully quiet in here all of a sudden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg
BAHAHAH
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Ok, back to business, shortblock is done.



These are the heads you brought me right Jon?
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Just for the record, when Kurt Urban built the 352" LS motor that eventually went on to set the record he had way more than pinned mains in the 352" iron block. He used a Billet main support system that mechanically locked the mains in place with the block. Bottom line is its your build and you will do what you feel is best for your engine program. The recommendations are not coming from those with no data to backup their claim. Best of luck with your build.
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
Ok, back to business, shortblock is done.



These are the heads you brought me right Jon?
SEXY!

And yes those are the Heads i dropped off
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Just for the record, when Kurt Urban built the 352" LS motor that eventually went on to set the record he had way more than pinned mains in the 352" iron block. He used a Billet main support system that mechanically locked the mains in place with the block. Bottom line is its your build and you will do what you feel is best for your engine program. The recommendations are not coming from those with no data to backup their claim. Best of luck with your build.
Not here to argue, this is our build thread.. I trust my builder 100% there is a reason they build top fuel engines!

I AM DONE TALKING ABOUT IT... MOVE ON
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For one, hes not looking for anything near power or speed wise where that car went, ran 6.88? That block was Filled too, I guess we need to get out the cement

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Just for the record, when Kurt Urban built the 352" LS motor that eventually went on to set the record he had way more than pinned mains in the 352" iron block.
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Originally Posted by AES Racing
For one, hes not looking for anything near power or speed wise where that car went, ran 6.88? That block was Filled too, I guess we need to get out the cement
Maybe I am confused but the motor in casper made 1600hp or so and the OP said the goal was 1500+hp. The car went 6.88 @ 200 in a lightweight top street/pro stock style car. The et comparison is apples and oranges due to the difference in chassis and tire selection. How many people have built a stock style iron block(no pinned mains or cement) and made 1500hp+ with zero relibility issues? Or is 1500hp+ not really the goal?
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Originally Posted by dreamls1
Not here to argue, this is our build thread.. I trust my builder 100% there is a reason they build top fuel engines!

I AM DONE TALKING ABOUT IT... MOVE ON


My post was a statement not a question or something that required a response.

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i would like to officially withdraw my question....lol.... Still a very cool build!!


Originally Posted by TracyRR
Should be killer! Lots of meat before the first ring. Did AES pin the factory main caps or did you go with steel aftermarket main caps?
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette


My post was a statement not a question or something that required a response.
Haha not mad brother, but it is what it is.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Maybe I am confused but the motor in casper made 1600hp
1900hp according to what i've been told, with twin 80mm, they were able to get more rpm with smaller turbos.
Originally had twin 88mm wouldn't go above 7500rpm, made 1600hp.

by calculator I often use, i'm seeing 1911.8 hp
(2700lbs, 205mph)

I know a iron LS 402 in Australia, dynoed 1380rwhp, Iron block, dart heads, 106mm turbo 35psi. I recall him mentioning bending a set of steel rods.

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Originally Posted by AES Racing
1900hp according to what i've been told, with twin 80mm, they were able to get more rpm with smaller turbos.
Originally had twin 88mm wouldn't go above 7500rpm, made 1600hp.

by calculator I often use, i'm seeing 1911.8 hp
(2700lbs, 205mph)

I know a iron LS 402 in Australia, dynoed 1380rwhp, Iron block, dart heads, 106mm turbo 35psi. I recall him mentioning bending a set of steel rods.
How many passes have they made on the 402 and how do the rod, main bearings, is there any fretting between the main caps and the block? All those answers you will not find on here.
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Casper was 2900# and ran 6.86@205
Main caps were steel, pinned and had custom girdle tying in the lower case at oil pan rail.
Engine made 1697hp@7500 with 88mm turbo's, but they surged at 7500rpm 30psi.
80mm turbo's allowed 9100rpm at 32psi, we figured it was over 1900hp but never ran that configuration on the dyno.
Lightweight Oliver rods were used (literally used), and weighed 610 grams.
3.5 Callies Magnum XL without CCW.
All bearings looked great when I took it apart, main caps showed minor movement.


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This isn't lookin' like much of a build thread here anymore! Lets let the man get back on track and start a topic elsewhere to debate about at what point you should consider pinning the mains. It's great info and deserves a thread as much as this guy does his own build thread.

Good luck to you OP and can't wait to see the finished product!!!


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