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Old 09-07-2011, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth LS1
Very impressive, but i'm going to add something here that i'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet, please change the converter in that car!!!! If you're only gaining 26 mph out the back door on a turbo car at that that level I can't even imagine how horribly inefficient that converter must be and you're leaving quite a bit on the table!
Yea when I mentioned skinnes trap speed of 154 and his at 147 I was thinking how could they be that far apart....but you answered that.
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Originally Posted by tripblackls1
don't worry eventually (next project at hand) i will have a lil 4.8 working for the record, although the car will probably weigh sub 2200#
GOOD. bring the 4.8 to the front.

btw, what car are you building?
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Originally Posted by Fbodyjunkie06
Yea when I mentioned skinnes trap speed of 154 and his at 147 I was thinking how could they be that far apart....but you answered that.
I also leave with a lot less power and bring power in down track, my 1/8th miles were VERY soft before just making easy passes. Hopefully this time out it'll go closer to 164.
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The difference in MPH is the differences in the weight.

2600 @ 154 = 800 hp

3400 @ 147 = 900 hp

For comparison, the rx7 would have to have gone 161 in the quarter at his weight to be at the same power as the Mustang.

The convertor might be a little loose but, after switching back to Hygard, the car is only about 6400 - 6500 thru the traps at 147.

The next project will be a third gen camaro, that has scaled at 2400 with a bigblock and nitrous, and is cert to 7.50.



Hitting it hard after we get back from Dragweek. We will be trying to get a hit on the Camaro this season.
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have you actualy put that car on a scale?
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Originally Posted by atomic 6
The difference in MPH is the differences in the weight.

2600 @ 154 = 800 hp

3400 @ 147 = 900 hp

For comparison, the rx7 would have to have gone 161 in the quarter at his weight to be at the same power as the Mustang.

The convertor might be a little loose but, after switching back to Hygard, the car is only about 6400 - 6500 thru the traps at 147.

The next project will be a third gen camaro, that has scaled at 2400 with a bigblock and nitrous, and is cert to 7.50.



Hitting it hard after we get back from Dragweek. We will be trying to get a hit on the Camaro this season.
You should be gaining much more than 26 mph on the backhalf at the level you are at and being a turbo car no less. I went 5.84 @ 119 1/8th and 9.09 @ 149 out the back door on my nitrous car, 3450 raceweight. I can almost guarantee your converter is horribly inefficient on the big end unless you have some other kind of issue with losing power or something. I would highly recommend trying another converter and I bet you will gain both et and mph! Also, the weight would make it to where you would have to have more power to run the same kind of mph as a lighter vehicle, but it wouldn't kill your 1/8th to 1/4 mph spread.
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Also how high are you reving the motor?
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Nice job Jim! Liking that fuel system you guys are running.
3400lbs is portly..... do you guys have a couple kegs in the trunk?
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Originally Posted by Kickergt
have you actualy put that car on a scale?

Which car?

The camaro scaled, at 2400 with a BB chevy.

The Mustang was scaled at track on DragWeek last year(3450), before more safety stuff was added to it over the winter.
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Originally Posted by Loudmouth LS1
You should be gaining much more than 26 mph on the backhalf at the level you are at and being a turbo car no less. I went 5.84 @ 119 1/8th and 9.09 @ 149 out the back door on my nitrous car, 3450 raceweight. I can almost guarantee your converter is horribly inefficient on the big end unless you have some other kind of issue with losing power or something. I would highly recommend trying another converter and I bet you will gain both et and mph! Also, the weight would make it to where you would have to have more power to run the same kind of mph as a lighter vehicle, but it wouldn't kill your 1/8th to 1/4 mph spread.
Yes,we should be gaining more on the second half, the Ultimate convertor is going to be sent back this winter, but that is not the only cause of the power falling off, and not even the biggest.

There is still more in it, if we get around to working on some of "weak links" that are in the car.
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oh, snap!!!
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Originally Posted by atomic 6
The difference in MPH is the differences in the weight.

2600 @ 154 = 800 hp

3400 @ 147 = 900 hp

For comparison, the rx7 would have to have gone 161 in the quarter at his weight to be at the same power as the Mustang.
The rx7 only made 686rwhp on the 154 pass, should make 850rwhp this time around, hopefully will go around 165.
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Originally Posted by 71 chevy
GOOD. bring the 4.8 to the front.

btw, what car are you building?

haha dont laugh but its actually going into a 1980 vw rabbit, the car is stripped right now and finishing up the cage and with the cage we estimate it to weigh about 800#, the car is a long way away as i just started working on it and i also have two other ls swap projects that need to be finished first
plans for the car is a 4.8 with twin 70mm and maybe 100-200 n20 /powerglide/built and narrowed 8.8/4 link rear suspension and a very large tire

i am aiming for 8.50s and know the car will be a hand full lol and it will mostly be a 1/4 mile street car
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Congrats on taking the record.
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great job on the record
how long have you been working on the record with this car
how much more do you think is in the car
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I wanna play!!!
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Mine is a 67' Camaro tube chassis street car, 4-link, 32x14.5 sticky mickeys, 3045 lbs (with 8-71 BBC) much lighter with the 5.3., heck the blower itself weighed 75 lbs.
I have a 5.3 with light head work, a cam that's too big, twin GT35 Ebay turbos, Th400, 4200 stall converter, 3.70 gear.
I'm gonna try 18 psi with methanol injection and race fuel. I would go E85 but
already set up for gas at the moment.
I have a goal be in the 8 sec club with some of you guys. I know my car is proven and should easily handle the power,( 8.27 @ 170 with the BBC). I have put a lot of street miles on this combination at 10 to 15 psi. No track times yet. Runs strong, but not quite there . I will keep you guys posted.

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Wow, that's crazy!
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Originally Posted by quik67

OH,SNAP NO 2


its about to be ON FIRE in the stock short-block class. maybe we need an ls1 stock shortblock nationals. it would be a fast event for sure.

quik67, EFI system are you running?
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Originally Posted by 71 chevy

OH,SNAP NO 2


its about to be ON FIRE in the stock short-block class. maybe we need an ls1 stock shortblock nationals. it would be a fast event for sure.

quik67, EFI system are you running?
I'm running a Megasquirt with the MSD 6010 box.
Your not that far away from the pack with your 4.8
Now get to work! Call me if you need some help.

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This thread makes me wonder why I'm even building a motor.


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