Need_a_Camaro

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What do you guys think about this gate placement? There wasnt enough room to get the 2.5" pipe on the merge because of the water pump. Is this going to cause creep issues? It's the PTE66 gate.

Fireball

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when the gate opens you are likely going to have a balance issue in the motor since one side will be feeding turbo and the other side will be out to atmosphere (less pressure)

Need_a_Camaro

iTrader: (27)

I figured it was going to give some sort of issue. Could the other bank be tied into the dump and work out okay? I guess changing water pumps could be a last ditch effort to get the dump in the merge.

IKnowtheFuture

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you could sell that WG and run a mirror image to the other pipe and have two smaller WGs

trav-tech

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Just build a 2 to 1 merge to the wg 1 pipe from each of the banks.

Need_a_Camaro

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I thought about that too, was hoping to make this one work. I've been waiting forever to get this thing finished. Would a setup similar to either one of these ideas work?:

IKnowtheFuture

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y not go down on the merge on the rad side?

RealQuick

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+1

Need_a_Camaro

iTrader: (27)

No room, the pic is deceiving as hell. That's a 2.5" pipe going to the gate. It's TIGHT in there...

SuperZ

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There are plenty of mustang kits where the gate is on one crossover pipe.Most of them do it because one header commects directly too turbo flange and doesn't have room for a gate on merge.

All of those guys kits work with it that way.

IKnowtheFuture

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can u take a pic looking down at the front of the motor?

RealQuick

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I think it will be fine as is, but it is not optimal.

You don't have room to drop it vertically down into the merge (so the wastegate stands up vertical... parallel with the radiator)? See pics for location of wastegate dumping into merge (pipe will be stratight, not radiused)

Need_a_Camaro

iTrader: (27)

The car isnt in my posession, so I'm going by the word of the fabricator. Here is the only other one I have that shows what you're looking for. It actually does look like there's room on the front.

IKnowtheFuture

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@realquick- that way would be horrible for controlling exhaust flow...

I would try seeing if you could mount it like I said by the rad

Need_a_Camaro

iTrader: (27)

Yeah, I'm going to see if he can do it like that. If not, we'll just tie it into the other side like my awesome drawing.

RealQuick

iTrader: (14)

No different then running it the way you said. The way everyone does it (like how you want) has the pipe perpendicular to the flow of the exhaust... which is technically horrible for controlling flow. However, every kit runs it like that, and usually there are no flow control problems

The best way is to have two small pipes inline with the flow merge at the wastegate.

Realistically the turbo setup will have a higher back pressure pre turbo than post turbo, so proper "flow" into the gate isn't a crucial. A pressurized system will vent where ever the opening is.

It becomes more crucial to be inline with the flow if the back pressure is closer to 1:1 or if the wastegate is undersized.

trav-tech

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Does your merge have a divieder? If not just put it to the middle of the collector on the waterpump side making a 90 and sitting off to the passenger side..

Need_a_Camaro

iTrader: (27)

That's the whole issue, there's not enough room between the merge and the waterpump. The pipe for the gate is 2.5"

IKnowtheFuture

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im just saying it wouldn't have the best control if the air had to make a 180* turn. the air is going to want to go straight into the turbo verses flipping around, especially at the velocity its moving.

RealQuick

iTrader: (14)

Agreed.

I think with a 66mm gate, he'd be fine no matter how he puts it.