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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Default Rear coolant steam vent modified for LS6 with pics

We all know the rear cylinders are more prone to go lean or detonate. Much debate has occurred over why this is the case. There are some posts floating around where someone turned the intake manifold around backwards and the rear cylinders were still more prone to go lean. Although the intake manifold design seems to play a role, the root cause seems to be surrounding the coolant passages as 99% of people block off the rear ports.

I am certainly not the inventor, but most everyone I've seen who does run coolant lines to the back of the heads, drills and taps the heads for braided lines, or runs a stock ls1 intake with stock crossover. Here are the steps I took to use an extra ls6 crossover i had with my ls6 intake.

PS.....I know I need to swap to a metal tee fitting, the plastic is the only one i had handy maybe this will shed some light on how easy this mod is and maybe prevent more from lifting the infamous #7 ringland.

LS6 crossover, removed the factory hose shown in the picture


Small piece of the ls6 intake that needed to be ground down slightly


Required bending to get the crossover around the oil pressure sensor


Simply tee'd the 2 coolant crossovers together and reconnected to port on the radiator

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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I've been debating doing this. Are you using this to try and get a stock bottom end to live or do you have a forged bottom end?
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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I did the same thing works great and way cheaper then the other options out there.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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I've been debating doing this. Are you using this to try and get a stock bottom end to live or do you have a forged bottom end?
I have a forged bottom end, but I figure every little bit helps to keep away detonation or to try and keep it together


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I did the same thing works great and way cheaper then the other options out there.
Yea, would have done it a long time ago had I realized how simple it was.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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Very interesting and definitely something I am going to do.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 09:14 AM
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Also running an ls6 crossover tube on the rear that junctions with the front crossover before the radiator. However it's done, all 4 corners should be vented, period.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Very interesting and definitely something I am going to do.
Your thread is actually what prompted me to do it Sorry to hear about the motor BTW.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Your thread is actually what prompted me to do it Sorry to hear about the motor BTW.
Live and learn right. I just hear people say "make sure you have a safe tune" but my tune was safe, but at whatever horsepower level I was at, it was too much for the stock ringland to last.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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doesnt running the 98-00 crossover tubes with the ribs ground off the bottom the ls6 intake accomplish the same thing?
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryans99ls1
doesnt running the 98-00 crossover tubes with the ribs ground off the bottom the ls6 intake accomplish the same thing?

Yes it does, and that's what I had when I ran an LS6 intake, but when I went to a FAST, I couldn't do that so I blocked off the rear tubes. I ran that way for quite some time until this summer when I put on a Procharger. I kne wit then that I should have gone back to the LS6 intake and the vent tubes, but didn't.

Like I said, you live and learn.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Live and learn right. I just hear people say "make sure you have a safe tune" but my tune was safe, but at whatever horsepower level I was at, it was too much for the stock ringland to last.
There isn't much that is safe with the compression and boost you were running on a stock bottom end with pump gas. Regardless of what timing you had that combination of fuel / compression and boost wasn't safe. For reference a lot of stock bottom end LS2's(11:1) with a D1SC or turbo don't run past 10 degrees of timing with 6-8lbs of boost without knock on pump gas.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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cool that it fits, i just may do this if i have the car for this season.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryans99ls1
doesnt running the 98-00 crossover tubes with the ribs ground off the bottom the ls6 intake accomplish the same thing?
Yup......but this is much easier and less invasive to the intake..
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider


Dont want to sound over critical. But use some proper clips on that hose !! Not shitty worm drive which should never be used on small diameter hose as they close up anything but round.

And I assume that photo is at the trial fitting ? Ensure proper clips on the tee piece too unless there are very good barbs on it and top quality hose is used.

And I rarely trust any of that basic universal silicone hose. It's usually far too soft for anywhere important as it splits very easy.
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Originally Posted by Nitroused383
There isn't much that is safe with the compression and boost you were running on a stock bottom end with pump gas. Regardless of what timing you had that combination of fuel / compression and boost wasn't safe. For reference a lot of stock bottom end LS2's(11:1) with a D1SC or turbo don't run past 10 degrees of timing with 6-8lbs of boost without knock on pump gas.
In all of the logs I have, I never saw knock while in boost. I think a lot of my issue came from tight top rings that bound in the ringland/bore.

And you're right, I knew I was pushing it way beyond what's safe, but it was fun while it lasted.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Dont want to sound over critical. But use some proper clips on that hose !! Not shitty worm drive which should never be used on small diameter hose as they close up anything but round.

And I assume that photo is at the trial fitting ? Ensure proper clips on the tee piece too unless there are very good barbs on it and top quality hose is used.

And I rarely trust any of that basic universal silicone hose. It's usually far too soft for anywhere important as it splits very easy.
Lmao, I've had silicone hose with a worm clamp on the 1 radiator port going to the front of the heads for circa 5 years with no issue or leaking. For whatever reason, the batch of silicone hose I bought a long time ago has been very robust.

As for the tee fitting, yes I am aware i need to get clamps on there, I'll be switching to a metal tee fitting, per my initial post, as soon as I get a chance to get to the hardware store. I actually brought the car up to temperature with the plastic fitting and no clamps and I could feel water circulating, so that's a good sign.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 08:18 PM
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ok i have a 5.3 truck motor and gonna replace the intake with an LS1 intake i bought,not sure if i have that crossover on my truck engine,if i dont ,is what i need a crossover from a ls6, and i see the blue hose,where does it go after the crossover,,the radiator?? thanks New to this motor
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so does the '98-'00 stock 4 post interfere at all with a vic jr? anyone know?
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:14 AM
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I will be curious to see what will fit with my Professional Products intake.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 06:31 AM
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so does the '98-'00 stock 4 post interfere at all with a vic jr? anyone know?
Nope. That is what I am running with my Vic JR
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