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Fairmont 2.0 (forged lq4, s480, 800whp, under new management)

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:16 PM
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Just seems like you didn't have as many problems on the cat **** 93 and the meth
Old 11-27-2012, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mcspooley
So Matt is running meth straight not like boost juice correct? does boost juice contain any other ingredients that help detonation?
Boost Juice contains ~49/51 Methanol/Water

http://www.snowperformance.net/product.php?pk=3
Old 11-28-2012, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by narfdanarf
I would put a 4" core ching chong intercooler on it, ditch the meth and let it eat. Go with what you know works!
ching chong intercooler LMAO! hahahha

i will be buying one and piping it with 3 inch.

heres a video for you mrthrfrkrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VbCQ5zzv0U
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the motor is installed, and i have everything ready to go, gunna get oil tomorrow and do a compression check on the cyls and make sure they are where they should be.

then fire her up again, haha
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I'm going to say it detonated, hard to tell in the pics, but looks like some peppering. Stick an FMIC back on it. How are you cleaning up the walls when swapping in new pistons and are you reusing rings and if so which ones?
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yep i just threw the new rings in and regapped, im didnt touch the cyl walls this time, i scuffed them with a harbor freight honing tool when i did the gen4 guts.

i checked cyl 3 that was broken and it had 145psi like before, didnt wanna crank it anymore till i fill her up with oil.

it still has the front mount, just bypassed, ill hook up the old tubing i had on it if i can fit it. otherwise i think ill have a friend weld a J pipe to the compressor on this turbo for easier install lol
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This gives me hope yet again that my stock junk will last after all. Luckily I don't plan on going over 16* of timing just upping the boost from 10# to 14# or so. I was making 610whp I want to shoot for 700whp through a th400.
Old 11-28-2012, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by denmah
yep i just threw the new rings in and regapped, im didnt touch the cyl walls this time, i scuffed them with a harbor freight honing tool when i did the gen4 guts.

i checked cyl 3 that was broken and it had 145psi like before, didnt wanna crank it anymore till i fill her up with oil.

it still has the front mount, just bypassed, ill hook up the old tubing i had on it if i can fit it. otherwise i think ill have a friend weld a J pipe to the compressor on this turbo for easier install lol
Are you still planning on MS and MSD video's now that your running the MS2?
Old 11-28-2012, 06:20 PM
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yeah i will make them using the sunbird.

fairmont is out burning em in 3rd gear on 18psi.

like a dream
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243 head side is pumping 180
799 head side is 150psi

lol i thought these heads were the same.
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Originally Posted by denmah
243 head side is pumping 180
799 head side is 150psi

lol i thought these heads were the same.
Were the broken ring lands under the 243 head only, or some under each? Pretty amazing if it's some under each with static compression that different.
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Wait, you are running two different heads? You crazy ****
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Originally Posted by o2camaross
Wait, you are running two different heads? You crazy ****
yeah i had a damaged head on my 4.8 and my friend had a broken ported ls1 head i fixed by replacing the valves and throwing the ported 241 on with the stock 862

this motor i burned that 799 head out, my friend had a 243 with bent valves

took the valves out of the 799 i melted and put them in this 243 and put it on when i torched the head off a few weeks ago.

whats funny is the pistons broke in the low compression side. the truck 799 head.

i pulled out a bunch of timing and the car feels great with 4-6 degrees removed...
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Originally Posted by denmah
whats funny is the pistons broke in the low compression side. the truck 799 head.
That is whacky..... How the hell can that make any sense? Are the combustion chamber shapes really different, or very different flow rates from the ports/valves between the who heads?
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according to everything i read, and saw, they are supposed to be the same...

lol
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passenger side of my motor, 243 head, 175-182psi
drivers side 799 head, 145-155psi
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lol at two different heads, I just remembered your not using a knock sensor at all on your setups right?

I bet that would have helped keep most of your motors together that way you would have known atleast when you went to far with timing..
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Originally Posted by 95bowtie
lol at two different heads, I just remembered your not using a knock sensor at all on your setups right?

I bet that would have helped keep most of your motors together that way you would have known atleast when you went to far with timing..
yep no knock sensor, honestly i used to start at like 8deg
get the fuel right, and throw in a degree or two at a time till the car quit making power


I usually would see 15-25rwhp per degree of timing, and then 5-10, and thats where i would stop or go back a step, i havent done that with this car in a long time. in fact i dont think i ever did it with the 5.3 i just used everything i learned from my 4.8...
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Dude Seriously 2 different heads? Really... Your the man brother Did ya use that much copper coat. hhaahahahaah

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is one head ported and the other not? otherwise aren't they both the same cc?


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