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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 02:21 PM
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Damn :-(. This is why I had my motor built local with a trust worthy person. Really sorry you have had so many issues.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 35thsscamaro02
Damn :-(. This is why I had my motor built local with a trust worthy person. Really sorry you have had so many issues.
I hear that. I was lucky enough to build a new friendship with my machinist/engine builder and learned a tremendous amount working with him. I literally walked over to his shop a couple nights a week and hung out and checked and double checked everything. He assembled the motor like 3 times making sure every thing was right. He made 100% certain that the bearing tolerances were spot on, it's one of the reasons I had to get another crank because he didn't like the bearings tolerances with it after the ground job that was done on it from the buy I bought it from. That's why I have Joey's crank in there now.

Keep your head up Joey. This will get worked out and you'll be loving it this spring when you're ripping through back roads.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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I think ur previous cam was degreed thus the crank sprocket being off and whoever swapped your cam didn't check. So if a new cam was swapped in and was lined up dot to dot on a previous crank gear that was degreed, Dot to dot would be incorrect. Your timing would be all off.
when I swapped mine, I called AES to see if they degreed my cam and they said they degree every cam they install.
Good no know this. I changed the cam in mine because of the change in my build. Took my crank out and sent it to Callies to have it double keyed. I was planning on calling AES for all the specs for when I get my crank back for installation. Was also going to ask about the cam. I just put it top dead center.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 01:16 AM
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Poop, this isn't what I like to read.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 02:18 AM
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Def hang in there bud, I am going to run over there tomorrow sometime and verify the tuneup and go from there. Hoping it just needs a slight adjustment to fire up.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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As a vendor on here I think they need to step up to the plate and help you out on some costs you are having to pay for.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
yeah after i tried to crank it months ago and it wouldnt i just gave up.

so when i decided to change cams, and the cover was pulled, i was sent photos. The thing was not lined up. New cam installed, and everything lined up right now.
Would you be willing to post those photos? I am sorry if you already have and I missed them.
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Old Jan 4, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Tuning would not help. It will hit but won't run. Tried changing sensors. It has feed a nd signal
Continuity all the way through. More than likely the reluctor IS on backwards. Motor is coming out. Crank is coming out. I am going to talk with AES and Callies.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:10 PM
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Called AES twice today. Left my info with the person that answered. Said he'd get with mike to get this all ironed out. Told me to have it ready to ship? But who was paying for shipping is beyond me. The quote for pulling the motor and crank and reinstalling is around $1400.00. Still waiting on a call back.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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Damn. Hope everything works out.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:26 PM
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I spoke to Mike earlier today, he did say he wasn't in the shop and is going to call tomorrow. Hope you get it sorted man.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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man this is scary i was just over there last week, did a tour of the shop, brought them some parts and paid them for a new killer 408 built for boost. I hope this gets figured out asap and i also hope this isn't contagious if ya know what i mean.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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in there defense. alot of my friends have there motors. badss, allout06, mike13, and Sirnemisis, and all there's have done well as far as I know.
Im just that lucky. I am anxious to see what can be done. Spring is coming and I want to be running 5.70 index in a street car.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 09:44 AM
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Mine started right up. But, I did have have some issues with their customer service at times... for 3 months I was told it would be ok for me to come in and build my own engine and at the last second they said they couldn't. No big deal I guess. What kinda pissed me off was that I ordered a long block with a specd cam. I think everyone would agree that when you order a "cam package" that it comes with a cam, spring kit and pushrods right? When I went and picked up my motor, they made me pay another $110 for pushrods when I got there after I called like 2 weeks prior and "paid it off" or so I thought. I asked what I owed, they told me, and I paid it just to get there and them say "by the way, you owe us another $110 even though we said its paid for on the phone". Again, its only a $100, but still, it was a surprise... Also, I never got my specd cam. After I asked for one. I gave em all the info to spec it, they supposedly flowed my heads and they put a cam in it. Come to find out, its the same cam they put it everyones 390.. 238/240 .605/.609 112lsa. So I had to sell it and lose money and purchase a cam that was made for my setup... just little bs like that kind of turned me off.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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I have known a few people to have issues with AES engines. It seems to me that they're hit and miss. My buisness will go elsewhere when the time comes.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by allout06
Mine started right up. But, I did have have some issues with their customer service at times... for 3 months I was told it would be ok for me to come in and build my own engine and at the last second they said they couldn't. No big deal I guess. What kinda pissed me off was that I ordered a long block with a specd cam. I think everyone would agree that when you order a "cam package" that it comes with a cam, spring kit and pushrods right? When I went and picked up my motor, they made me pay another $110 for pushrods when I got there after I called like 2 weeks prior and "paid it off" or so I thought. I asked what I owed, they told me, and I paid it just to get there and them say "by the way, you owe us another $110 even though we said its paid for on the phone". Again, its only a $100, but still, it was a surprise... Also, I never got my specd cam. After I asked for one. I gave em all the info to spec it, they supposedly flowed my heads and they put a cam in it. Come to find out, its the same cam they put it everyones 390.. 238/240 .605/.609 112lsa. So I had to sell it and lose money and purchase a cam that was made for my setup... just little bs like that kind of turned me off.
This is honestly shitty customer service. If shops started treating customers like gold and not like **** then they would make more money in the long run. If they made a mistake and said it was paid for you owe nothing, then oh, btw you owe $110. Suck it up as a shop and say we made a mistake, we will take care of it. Thats what happens at the MB dealer I work at. You create a happy customer who will remember it and return for future business, instead of an angry one who will go elsewhere next time around, just my thoughts on it.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Cam72aro
This is honestly shitty customer service. If shops started treating customers like gold and not like **** then they would make more money in the long run. If they made a mistake and said it was paid for you owe nothing, then oh, btw you owe $110. Suck it up as a shop and say we made a mistake, we will take care of it. Thats what happens at the MB dealer I work at. You create a happy customer who will remember it and return for future business, instead of an angry one who will go elsewhere next time around, just my thoughts on it.
It really is. And I can honestly say I probably wouldnt buy again from them. Dont get me wrong, Brian is awesome to talk t, he's very friendly. But AES as a whole, I felt like, if I wasnt spending $40000 on an engine then I get a different level of treatment. Granted, they dont make a lot of money off us little guys but we are still customers and $6000-$8000 or whatever it may be, is a lot of money to us.
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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I am in the same boat with my experiences with AES. I will definitely be going into detail in my build thread about them, I just haven't wanted to take the time to type about it yet.

I agree, Brian is awesome to talk with on the phone. He always took the time needed to go through things and discuss options. However, it was always a pain to get him on the phone. I left voicemails, sent emails, called numerous times to no avail. It seemed like when Brian or Mike wasn't there, nothing would ever get done. Nobody else knew about anything in the shop.

They are disorganized to put that in a blunt way.

They can't maintain a schedule for the average consumer. Many of my calls were to check on progress. They would respond it would be done the following week. I called the next week and they hadn't touched it. Another week. It never ended.

When I first agreed to have them put my engine together, they had a fairly decent name for themselves. It was soon after that, more and more came out about them. It has been nothing but downhill since then. Even after I got my engine, I didn't think much about the company, but still thought they could build a good product. Now that even has me scratching my head.

Sucks the OP has to go through this. It is frustrating to say the least. Hopefully they do something for you, but I would be shocked if they do anything financially. Get that thing back together and let's see some HP numbers and videos tearing up the road.

I am starting to get the urge to put together a post or two in my build thread. Maybe later this week. Continue to warn future consumers!
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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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I am in the same boat with my experiences with AES. I will definitely be going into detail in my build thread about them, I just haven't wanted to take the time to type about it yet.

I agree, Brian is awesome to talk with on the phone. He always took the time needed to go through things and discuss options. However, it was always a pain to get him on the phone. I left voicemails, sent emails, called numerous times to no avail. It seemed like when Brian or Mike wasn't there, nothing would ever get done. Nobody else knew about anything in the shop.

They are disorganized to put that in a blunt way.

They can't maintain a schedule for the average consumer. Many of my calls were to check on progress. They would respond it would be done the following week. I called the next week and they hadn't touched it. Another week. It never ended.

When I first agreed to have them put my engine together, they had a fairly decent name for themselves. It was soon after that, more and more came out about them. It has been nothing but downhill since then. Even after I got my engine, I didn't think much about the company, but still thought they could build a good product. Now that even has me scratching my head.

Sucks the OP has to go through this. It is frustrating to say the least. Hopefully they do something for you, but I would be shocked if they do anything financially. Get that thing back together and let's see some HP numbers and videos tearing up the road.

I am starting to get the urge to put together a post or two in my build thread. Maybe later this week. Continue to warn future consumers!
I could usually get a hold of them, and they would call me back maybe 4/10 times. I would have to call several times a day to reach them though and i would agree with the statement about Brian and Mike being gone.. I also didnt get a single piece of paper work with my engine.. just my cam card. measurement specs, no weight specs of the balancing or anything? i dont know if most engine builders do the same, but if i were an engine shop, id provide my customer with everything. As far as quality. im confident that AES makes a bad *** product. The only issues i have seen with them, has been only customer service. I havent seen any quality related issues until now. But, **** happens. everyone gets complacent at every work place. Joey just happened to draw the short straw this time.

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Joey just texted me (I8UR4D) and said AES is paying for shipping to and from Chicago and tear down of the engine. He has to pay for the removal of it. which i think he should be reimbursed after they determine it was an assembly error/bad crank from callies. I would definitely look into reimbursement for the labor of pulling/installing it joey.
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