F-1A Procharger build ** Updated 6/13/13 ** Pics, Videos, Results inside....
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F-1A Procharger build ** Updated 6/13/13 ** Pics, Videos, Results inside....
I'm use to NA and nitrous motors so please bear with me if my questions or comments seem "Basic" lol
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a 2001 SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
LS9 Head gaskets
Mamo Ported Fast 102
NW 102mm TB
F-1A Procharger 12lbs boost @ 7000 rpms (7.65 Crank pulley, 4.38 Drive pulley)
Aster bracket Upgrade
Large Truck hat upgrade
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
1000cc injectors
AMS 1000hp Custom Fuel System
Truck Coils
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
3" ORY with Flowmaster merge
Stock Dual Dual catback
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
LT1 Radiator
SDCE Dual Fan Kit
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Temp Gauge
NGK Wideband
My hp goals are really conserative 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? There are some things that will need to be purchased, some others I'm taking from the Z28.
UPDATE: Pictures on page 3
Dyno Video
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a 2001 SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
LS9 Head gaskets
Mamo Ported Fast 102
NW 102mm TB
F-1A Procharger 12lbs boost @ 7000 rpms (7.65 Crank pulley, 4.38 Drive pulley)
Aster bracket Upgrade
Large Truck hat upgrade
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
1000cc injectors
AMS 1000hp Custom Fuel System
Truck Coils
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
3" ORY with Flowmaster merge
Stock Dual Dual catback
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
LT1 Radiator
SDCE Dual Fan Kit
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Temp Gauge
NGK Wideband
My hp goals are really conserative 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? There are some things that will need to be purchased, some others I'm taking from the Z28.
UPDATE: Pictures on page 3
Dyno Video
Last edited by SmokedOutZ28; 03-19-2016 at 10:54 PM. Reason: Updated
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I would go with our 232/240 595/608 on 115 camshaft. Check out the dyno sheet at the link on my website for that cam, it is a very similar build to yours. Bob
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I'm use to NA and nitrous motors so please bear with me if my questions or comments seem "Basic" lol
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression (AES to swap pistons to achieve ratio)
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
Mamo Ported Fast 102 w/matching TB
235/251 .621/.624 115 LSA (Brute speed cam)
F1A Procharger 12lbs boost (Estimated Boost level)
Aster bracket
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
80lb siemens injectors
Lonnies double pumper fuel system kit
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
Custom ORY
Stock Dual Dual catback w/cutout
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Wideband
My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression (AES to swap pistons to achieve ratio)
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
Mamo Ported Fast 102 w/matching TB
235/251 .621/.624 115 LSA (Brute speed cam)
F1A Procharger 12lbs boost (Estimated Boost level)
Aster bracket
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
80lb siemens injectors
Lonnies double pumper fuel system kit
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
Custom ORY
Stock Dual Dual catback w/cutout
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Wideband
My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
I like the build. My compression is 10.3 to 1.
That thing is gonna make 700 or more to the tire.
Take a look at my build.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...s-finally.html
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I like the build. My compression is 10.3 to 1.
That thing is gonna make 700 or more to the tire.
Take a look at my build.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...s-finally.html
That thing is gonna make 700 or more to the tire.
Take a look at my build.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...s-finally.html
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I'm use to NA and nitrous motors so please bear with me if my questions or comments seem "Basic" lol
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression (AES to swap pistons to achieve ratio)
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
Mamo Ported Fast 102 w/matching TB
235/251 .621/.624 115 LSA (Brute speed cam)
F1A Procharger 12lbs boost (Estimated Boost level)
Aster bracket
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
80lb siemens injectors
Lonnies double pumper fuel system kit
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
Custom ORY
Stock Dual Dual catback w/cutout
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Wideband
My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression (AES to swap pistons to achieve ratio)
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
Mamo Ported Fast 102 w/matching TB
235/251 .621/.624 115 LSA (Brute speed cam)
F1A Procharger 12lbs boost (Estimated Boost level)
Aster bracket
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
80lb siemens injectors
Lonnies double pumper fuel system kit
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
Custom ORY
Stock Dual Dual catback w/cutout
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Wideband
My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
LOL....Thats enough hardware to make 700+ to the tires... I'd probably go to a smaller blower cam though for driveability.
Boost level will depend on the pulley combination..
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My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
The FAST will be fine with boost, but certainly not needed. A Stock LS6 intake and TB are more than adequate for your needs. A 102mm TB is totally and utterly pointless and will do more to hurt drivability than anything.
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The 402 did make over 500hp & 500tq on a mustang dyno NA but that was with 11.8 compression, large exhaust system & a larger cam.
I am pretty sure it will make over 500 to the tires but I don't want to focus on making the most power and forget that I just want to enjoy this one.
I plan to run the kit right out the box, so hopefully that provides enough boost.
As others have said, you will be struggling to stay as low as 500 with what you have listed.
The FAST will be fine with boost, but certainly not needed. A Stock LS6 intake and TB are more than adequate for your needs. A 102mm TB is totally and utterly pointless and will do more to hurt drivability than anything.
The FAST will be fine with boost, but certainly not needed. A Stock LS6 intake and TB are more than adequate for your needs. A 102mm TB is totally and utterly pointless and will do more to hurt drivability than anything.
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I'm use to NA and nitrous motors so please bear with me if my questions or comments seem "Basic" lol
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression (AES to swap pistons to achieve ratio)
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
Mamo Ported Fast 102 w/matching TB
235/251 .621/.624 115 LSA (Brute speed cam)
F1A Procharger 12lbs boost (Estimated Boost level)
Aster bracket
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
80lb siemens injectors
Lonnies double pumper fuel system kit
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
Custom ORY
Stock Dual Dual catback w/cutout
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Wideband
My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
Long story short..... I built a 402 for my Z28 with expectations of spending time at the track, well I spent all this year with a unforgiving work schedule and no track time. I've decided to part out the Z28 and I recently picked up a SS that I want to be Fun street car! that will keep all comfort options and get the same power I was use to with the Z28.
Heres where I need to see if my current parts will work well with a procharge build or will I need to change up some things.
402 LS2 10:1 Compression (AES to swap pistons to achieve ratio)
A.I CNC Ported L92s milled .020"
Mamo Ported Fast 102 w/matching TB
235/251 .621/.624 115 LSA (Brute speed cam)
F1A Procharger 12lbs boost (Estimated Boost level)
Aster bracket
Front mount Intercooler w/race valve
80lb siemens injectors
Lonnies double pumper fuel system kit
Kooks 1-7/8th headers
Custom ORY
Stock Dual Dual catback w/cutout
FLT Extreme duty T56
Mcleod RXT Clutch
QTP Bellhousing
Boost Gauge
Fuel pressure gauge
Wideband
My hp goals are really 500/500 on a Mustang dyno If it makes more great but my main priority is to keep great driveability for everyday use if need be. My second is to keep the A/C, Cruise, Traction control, ABS, and the interior intact. Last but not least is to get back to 500hp on a mustang dyno on 93 octane.
Am I missing anything? Will the FAST 102 hold up to boost? does my compression ratio work with my plans and goals? Everything in RED needs to be purchased, all the others I'm taking from the Z28.
The above Mustang Chassis dyno graph is from a 2005 CTS-V that we built at the old shop. We started with a new LS2 block, added a 4.0 stroker crank, Diamond pistons and Total Seal rings. Compression ratio is 9.5/1.
We used our 232/240 595/608 on 115. We topped this off with off the shelf AFR 225 heads and a FAST 92 intake. Kooks 1-7/8 headers were used and a ProCharger F-1A.
It made 864 rwhp at just 12.4 psi of boost. Take a look at the torque at just 2000 rpm, this combination is very street friendly. The owner of this V (skydiver on here) took his car to another shops dyno day and it made more power on their dyno. Bob
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The above Mustang Chassis dyno graph is from a 2005 CTS-V that we built at the old shop. We started with a new LS2 block, added a 4.0 stroker crank, Diamond pistons and Total Seal rings. Compression ratio is 9.5/1.
We used our 232/240 595/608 on 115. We topped this off with off the shelf AFR 225 heads and a FAST 92 intake. Kooks 1-7/8 headers were used and a ProCharger F-1A.
It made 864 rwhp at just 12.4 psi of boost. Take a look at the torque at just 2000 rpm, this combination is very street friendly. The owner of this V (skydiver on here) took his car to another shops dyno day and it made more power on their dyno. Bob
Anyone using a polished head unit? I am trying to decide if it's worth the extra cost or not. I don't think it can even be seen from up top can it?
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No need for a polished head unit unless it was a corvette. Our headunits mount down low and you can't see them at all.
The forumla for making 700+ is pretty easy anymore on a stock cube motor. Forge the pistons and rods, compression at 10.1-10.5, decent heads, long tubes, D1SC with a 4.00" pulley, Aster's bracket, FMIC and you're looking at north of 700 rear wheel horsepower.
It really is amazing.
The forumla for making 700+ is pretty easy anymore on a stock cube motor. Forge the pistons and rods, compression at 10.1-10.5, decent heads, long tubes, D1SC with a 4.00" pulley, Aster's bracket, FMIC and you're looking at north of 700 rear wheel horsepower.
It really is amazing.