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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Like the title says I have a v7 ysi and its only making 6-7 psi (77 kpa 2 bar map) by 6k rpm. I'm running a 7.8 crank and a 2.95 blower. I have a fmic and triple checked all my hose clamps. Any idea what's happening?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Something I should add. I also ran a 3.33 and made the same boost. I have a log from HP tuners if that helps and I also have a video. It makes peak boost at redline.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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Was the unit new or used ? And does it look in good condition ?

Also, at idle, how much air is getting dumped out your BOV ? It should be quite a lot.

I assume your HPT log does match gauge pressure ?

Not sure what way HPT works, but normally 100kpa is atmospheric with most other ecus.
Ive only ever come across one system that treats 0kpa as atmospheric.

So are you sure your MAP sensor is scaled correctly ?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Its new. and yes at idle its like a leaf blower. I'm using a 2 bar map so at 50 kpa that is atmospheric pressure and 100kpa is 14 psi and I do have it all scaled in the tune. My log matches my boost gauge.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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Correct length belt? How much dust is on the pullies? It should be making a lot more boost than that with your pulley combo. Have you checked to make sure nothing is blocking the intercooler?
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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There isn't any dust on the belt. But I haven't checked the intercooler for blockage. That's a good idea.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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what intercooler are you running?
have any pics of your setup?
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I will get some pictures up in a few hours
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 04:00 PM
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I forget who makes the intercooler but it was one of those big eBay off band ones. I will get pictures up
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here are some picures
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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I'm betting the belt is slipping. That is not near enough tension for a YSi.... You should see a vette's YSi set up. They have CRAZY belt routing and tension (a automatic and manual tensioner) along with a couple idlers and even they'll slip then with that size pulley.

It could be slipping enough that there isn't enough traction to shear the belt, therefore no dust..
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This gives you an idea of the belt routing I was just talking about



Your set up has a TON of unguided belt length.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1toofastlt1
Its new. and yes at idle its like a leaf blower. I'm using a 2 bar map so at 50 kpa that is atmospheric pressure and 100kpa is 14 psi and I do have it all scaled in the tune. My log matches my boost gauge.
50kpa can never be atmospheric. That is wrong.

On the kpa scale, 0kpa should be absolute vacuum. 100kpa is atmospheric. 200 kpa is 1 bar positive pressure, ie 15psi boost gauge, and 300kpa 2 bar, ie 30psi boost gauge pressure ( approx )


So engine off, key on it should read 100kpa, or pretty damn close to it. The only anomoly is some ecu's treat atmospheric as 0kpa, which is technically wrong. But they would then treat 0 to -100kpa as vacuum. Which is wrong, but in some ways it can make sense.
So then 100kpa would be 1 bar gauge pressure, ie 15psi boost gauge.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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The setup looks fine, but hard to tell how much tension you have there. What make belt is it too ?

Can you alter the idlers etc to force more wrap around the pulley ? Is that a 6 rib or 8 ?

IMO if it was slip, I still think you would see boost rise, then either level off or fall as revs rise.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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With a stock pcm in a lt1 you have to trick to computer into seeing boost. So you will have to install a 2 bar map sensor and scale the tables by half. So my sensor reads 50 kpa at atmospheric pressure and 100kps at 14psi. The tables in the factory pcm will only read up to 100 kpa.
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It's a 8 rib belt from napa. Napa brand. I agree with it was belt slip it wouldn't slowly gain boost all the way to redline.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1toofastlt1
With a stock pcm in a lt1 you have to trick to computer into seeing boost. So you will have to install a 2 bar map sensor and scale the tables by half. So my sensor reads 50 kpa at atmospheric pressure and 100kps at 14psi. The tables in the factory pcm will only read up to 100 kpa.

No problem, that makes sense.

Cheapest option is get a Gates belt, and tighten the **** out of it.

Even spraying some hairspray onto it before making a pull might make a difference ( it's sticky stuff )

If you're relying on an auto tensioner making enough tension, I'd be dubious unless it was installed tensioner right to its limit.

Try moving the lower idler closer to the blower to force more wrap. It might also then allow more tension on the belt before the two sections make contact.

But really, nothing with the setup looks bad. It all looks quite capable of working.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Ok I'm going to try tightening the belt. the only other thing I can think of is maybe some jackass stuff something in my intercooler when I wasn't looking . I am installed the intercooler on my driveway so it was outside open to the public for a while
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