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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Well I know there aren't too many problems with on3 turbos but when I cranked the car up today the driver side turbo didn't feel like cooperating. This is the first time I have noticed a problem, and it was fairly stuck. I bought two 76's and two 44mm gates from on3 a while back and everything went smoothly until I got my wastegates that didn't come with any flanges, and none were ever sent after two additional phone calls.

the car has been to the track twice and maybe 50 street miles on the setup.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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that sucks, how much hp were you making setup etc.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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See, thats the kinda **** I couldnt have happen on my daily driver. I am considering purchasing their new a/c turbo kit but seeing this has me worried. To have my car towed home from work would cost about $200 and thats unacceptable to spend money like that for a tow just outta the blue. I wonder how many times this has happened and if using their ball bearing turbo would insure that this NEVER happens?
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 06:56 PM
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it was probably around 600 or so @ the rear wheels I never got a chance to run it much due to being in the bulk of work in my degree path. And I will say customer service bf purchase was like I was a king and after not so much. I will never buy from them again and will be more than happy to pay a bit more for a BW or garrett turbo.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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Just see if you can take some money off and not receive the on3 turbo with the kit. Then just buy one of the new tnetics 76/75 or 78/75 then no worries.

To OP I'm sorry to hear this.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:14 PM
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Jreinger,word of wise do not mod your dd, but if your going to procharger would be my option,sucks about the turbo,but hopefully ya got some use out of it,and i will say the on3 cs is horrible,
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Just see if you can take some money off and not receive the on3 turbo with the kit. Then just buy one of the new tnetics 76/75 or 78/75 then no worries.

To OP I'm sorry to hear this.
don't have to be sorry it is my own mistake(for buying them) and I will own it, I was learning how to fabricate when I built this set up so really these turbos are just a means to an end on learning how to fab. I am still not great at it but when I graduate I plan on redoing the entire set up and using good turbos/gates.

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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Looks like maybe a bearing went bad? Hows the axial and radial shaft play?

Have you talked to them yet? They are an LS1tech sponsor and I sure hope they would help you out.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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I have dealt with them before on flanges I did not recieve with my waste gates, I was treated poorly, and I will not be calling them back over this issue. And no it does not have any radial or axial shaft movement.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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Is it rubbing anywhere?
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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no it seems to just be seized, I will take it apart eventually and find out what the deal is.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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Could it have possibly got something pulled in that could be lodging it?
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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anything is possible, don't know what could have gotten in there thought. It has been sitting under my car port for a while.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 09:49 PM
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we should really get to the bottom of WHY IT SIEZED. possible bad bearing, just one of those "crap happens", poor cool down proceedure, clogged oil feed, one of the housings not bolted down square, foriegn obstruction inside, etc... id get ON3 to have it replaced or at least rebuilt.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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Before pointing the blame on On3 I would investigate a bit further and see what the point of failure is. If the wheel has not made contact with the housing I would verify oil pressure at the turbo. Trash in a feed line could absolutely cause premature bearing failure.

I agree with others that having a part fail so quickly is disappointing but before posting a thread knocking the distributor, the point of failure should be determined. Without knowing what went wrong, can you be 100% positive it is a manufacturers defect and furthermore have you given On3 the opportunity to rectify the situation?
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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In addition, you should have a 1 month warranty from the date of delivery per their website. Not sure if that helps.

http://on3performance.com/Warranty.aspx

I have a 76mm On3 sitting on a shelf in my garage waiting to go on, so I am curious to now what went wrong and if it is something that could have been prevented.
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Old Jan 16, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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yes I have oil pressure, it is out of warranty, and I have been screwed by them in the past. So I will not be calling about this issue as I do not want to be treated like dirt again.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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yes I have oil pressure, it is out of warranty, and I have been screwed by them in the past. So I will not be calling about this issue as I do not want to be treated like dirt again.
I understand where you're coming from, but since they are now a sponsor they should start treating their customers a little better, or else they won't be a sponsor for long. I'd at least give it another shot. This thread isn't good PR for them at the moment.

I too have an on3 on the shelf waiting to go on.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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Like others stated, take the turbo apart and see why it failed. Its easy for me to say user failure the same as it is for you to say On3 failure until diagnosis is completed.

On another note I couldn't be more happy with my On3 Turbo. I have beat up on my 5.3 on 5, 9, 12, 15 and 17 psi without a skip using On3'd 76mm cheapo unit.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue Status
Before pointing the blame on On3 I would investigate a bit further and see what the point of failure is. If the wheel has not made contact with the housing I would verify oil pressure at the turbo. Trash in a feed line could absolutely cause premature bearing failure.

I agree with others that having a part fail so quickly is disappointing but before posting a thread knocking the distributor, the point of failure should be determined. Without knowing what went wrong, can you be 100% positive it is a manufacturers defect and furthermore have you given On3 the opportunity to rectify the situation?
I agree. I find it odd that you just blame them outright without even investigating what the actual cause of failure was.

This may not be your intent but all I can gather from your refusal to communicate with them is that:

- You titled it knowing that they are a sponsor and would see your complaint
- They would try and resolve the issue since you blasted them in this thread
- All the while it took no direct communication with directly them from your part

Now granted it is disappointing to have something youv'e spent allot of time on break, however to not talk to the vendor or even care to see where the failure oringinated is just silly.

Good luck on getting your situation resolved bro, and get that thing back on the road!
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