Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

someone post their D1 small pully dyno graph

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 7, 2013 | 07:55 PM
  #1  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default someone post their D1 small pully dyno graph

This may sound crazy but im having a weird itch to buy a 03-04 cobra just for the simple fact they make such instant TQ and seem fun to drive around town ect. I currently have a D1/stock bottom SS making 640/540. The only thing i dont like is you have to turn it up a few rpm's to make it sit you back in the seat and doesn't have that low end grunt. Im curious to see what peoples dyno graphs look like with built 347 or 370 with a small blower pully such as a 3.40 ect (much more low end boost that I currently make) to see how much low end torque they make. I have a 4.25 blower pully currently. I may just build a motor instead of the cobra route.
Reply
Old May 7, 2013 | 08:51 PM
  #2  
conan's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 6
From: Back in the Burg
Default

Details on the rest of your set up ?
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 06:04 AM
  #3  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default

11# max boost, 14 degrees timing, truck blower hat, front mount, 6 speed, 9", blower cam, stock bottom end and heads.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 06:42 AM
  #4  
The Alchemist's Avatar
UNDER PRESSURE MOD
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,813
Likes: 15
From: Doylestown PA
Default

What gears are you running? I have 3.73s and the reason I ask is because I have a 4.00" pulley, make 15psi max, and it's got plenty of low end grunt, enough to spin 305 R888s in second as soon as I roll into the throttle enough to close the bypass and make boost.

I would go down in pulley size if the motor can handle it, or swap rear gears if you really want to have fun.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 07:15 AM
  #5  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default

3.89 rear gear. It's a stock bottom so a smaller pully isn't really a safe option haha. I would only assume alot smaller pully would make alot more low end boost/tq.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 09:13 AM
  #6  
conan's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 6
From: Back in the Burg
Default

You could add meth with a smaller pulley, and shift sooner. This would get the blower rpms up in the lower engine rpms and shifting sooner would help the bottom end live a little longer.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 09:32 AM
  #7  
ramairetransam's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,462
Likes: 75
From: Amsterdam Ny, the good part
Default

could run a smaller pulley and run an inlet restrictor so you have more boost down low from the smaller pulley but the restrictor limits the amount of boost . Ecs does this with their kits and it would help .
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 09:44 AM
  #8  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default

I think y'all may be missing my point. I don't mind building a motor but I'm trying to decide between buying a 03 04 cobra or building a motor. What I really want to see is how much low end tq people are making with built 347/370 and small pulley d1 combos. If tq comes in early close to a roots blower on a cobra I will just build a motor and go that route.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 8, 2013 | 10:08 AM
  #9  
The Alchemist's Avatar
UNDER PRESSURE MOD
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 10,813
Likes: 15
From: Doylestown PA
Default

Just remember, too much low end torque just results in spinning tires, which is cool for like 5 minutes, then it's annoying because you realize that you are actually slower than if you had traction and weren't spinning your tires.

Maybe it's just my setup, but I'm making more low end torque than I know what to do with. Like I said, any boost at all in 1st or 2nd and I get wheel spin. I'm talking rolling along at 25mph in 2nd gear at 2500rpm and if I get on it, it's instant wheel spin.

Watch the end of this video and you'll see/hear what I'm talking about. I pulled out of my neighborhood, and rolled into second gear and instantly hit redline.

Fast forward to like 2:15 seconds.

Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 10:17 AM
  #10  
josepy121380's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: WISCONSIN
Default

3.4 pulley on my old d1 setup with a metric **** ton of belt slip.b Had the pulley been tight would have made well over 700 plus.

Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 10:41 AM
  #11  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default

Were getting into what I want to see now. First gear is useless now. Second will spin if my nitto drag radials are cold at upper rpms. If I go the built motor route I plan on going to a much longer gear. Maybe a 3.55 to help with wheel spin.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 11:32 AM
  #12  
josepy121380's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: WISCONSIN
Default

Originally Posted by speedfreak2685
Were getting into what I want to see now. First gear is useless now. Second will spin if my nitto drag radials are cold at upper rpms. If I go the built motor route I plan on going to a much longer gear. Maybe a 3.55 to help with wheel spin.
I went to a F1c after the D1. Made 810 on 16lbs. GOIng back to a D1. I do not race my car. Just a toy and burnout machine. So a D1 maxxed a tad over 700 is perfect for me. My car is also 10.5 to 1 when I had the D1 on it so it was not a low compression slouch.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 11:38 AM
  #13  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default

I take it the f1 was just way to much to use on the street and really be able to enjoy it?
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 01:55 PM
  #14  
josepy121380's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: WISCONSIN
Default

Originally Posted by speedfreak2685
I take it the f1 was just way to much to use on the street and really be able to enjoy it?
Not really I just thought i was wasting it. A lot of money in a head unit that i did not need nor I would ever use to its potential. Had it been a f1a i would of kept it. I originally only bought the f1c it used because it came with everything big red race valve and the aster bracket. That is the only reason why i bought it. Other than that street driving was fine with it.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 06:18 PM
  #15  
jjcamaro02's Avatar
9 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 342
Likes: 3
From: buffalo,NY
Default

This is a D1sc with a 3.4 pulley made around 18 # of boost. At the time it was a 347 iron block 9.3 cr.


Last edited by jjcamaro02; May 8, 2013 at 06:24 PM.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 06:31 PM
  #16  
speedfreak2685's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Resident
20 Year Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 765
Likes: 0
Default

looks like power dropped off hard around 6000. What was that due to?
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 06:34 PM
  #17  
josepy121380's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: WISCONSIN
Default

Originally Posted by speedfreak2685
looks like power dropped off hard around 6000. What was that due to?
Maybe some slip. Anyone that has a blower I recommend the aster bracket. Best money spent.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 07:04 PM
  #18  
jjcamaro02's Avatar
9 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 342
Likes: 3
From: buffalo,NY
Default

Originally Posted by speedfreak2685
looks like power dropped off hard around 6000. What was that due to?
If you look at the mph it is low. That is because i was blowing through the converter.

Originally Posted by josepy121380
Maybe some slip. Anyone that has a blower I recommend the aster bracket. Best money spent.
I had the Aster bracket, yes worth the money. I now have an F1r
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 07:11 PM
  #19  
josepy121380's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 492
Likes: 0
From: WISCONSIN
Default

Originally Posted by jjcamaro02
If you look at the mph it is low. That is because i was blowing through the converter.

duuur my bad. I probably should have looked at that.
Reply
Old May 8, 2013 | 07:24 PM
  #20  
jjcamaro02's Avatar
9 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 342
Likes: 3
From: buffalo,NY
Default

Originally Posted by josepy121380
duuur my bad. I probably should have looked at that.
No sorry i should have stated that.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:28 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE