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Old 05-25-2004, 03:18 AM
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Oh forgot I saw a Z06 with Twin turbo set . The other day oh my got it looked like a pumbers nightmare...

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Man thats some serious lag for a T67 and a 346CI motor. HP drops off quickly also.....what size piping are you guys running. Looks like you need to up the piping diameter. Just for comparison sake...here is a dyno sheet a buddy sent to me from a stock motor supra with a PTE-67GTQ on low boost.

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Its spools nearly the same. Like has been said, a turbo that is that far from the heat source is going to suffer from lag, btw was that dyno with the meth injection??? I would love to see a dyno run showing the IAT's without the meth on....

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Old 05-26-2004, 06:23 PM
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its a 3 inch pipe on the sts turbo set ups and the only reason his hp droped so fast is cause its a 6 speed and he prolly wasnt speed shifting so he had to bring the hp back up in the next gear.
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Originally Posted by josh69brown
its a 3 inch pipe on the sts turbo set ups and the only reason his hp droped so fast is cause its a 6 speed and he prolly wasnt speed shifting so he had to bring the hp back up in the next gear.
It's funny that it looks the exact same as when you run out of turbo.

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Old 05-26-2004, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
pretty neat for sure, some thoughts..

turbotech kit with t76 = 5,100

sts kit is 3,800 + 500 methanol kit + 800 headers = 5,100
I follow your logic dave. Basically, to get similar results you would find with a TTI kit, you have to spend almost as much. Which follows my theory that cost corelates to (power received / power adder method). lol.

Originally Posted by josh69brown
its a 3 inch pipe on the sts turbo set ups and the only reason his hp droped so fast is cause its a 6 speed and he prolly wasnt speed shifting so he had to bring the hp back up in the next gear.
Speed shifting on a dyno? Whaahh?? His power fell off more than likely because he ran out of turbo or ran out of fuel. I'd say the later.

Also can anyone explain why his power curve looks like it was drawn by someone with parkinsons? Is that misfire? Surging? Lack of fuel? Too much Fuel? Inquiring mind(s) would like to know.

Thanks,
Rob

P.S. Great numbers!
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are you all talking about the truck graph? The second graph is the truck. The reason it dropped is because th exhaust housing is way to small. It is a .68. We are going to put a .81 on it this week. I still think its funny that some of you think it is equal in price.
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My post was about the 5psi top graph. Looks like a really rough power climb. The second part of my comments regarding cost is, cost per HP is about the same, not that the kits are similar in price.
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What horsepower falloff? I think you guys are looking at the truck graph. The 5psi graph looks like a very smooth climb and then stutters a little near the top and when the torque starts to come down. I've seem much worse on FI cars. I'm actually very impressed with the 5 psi numbers of this system. I wouldn't have thought the torque would have come on that fast. In the Supra graph there is a steep climb between ~3800 and 4500. The STS has a more gradual climb starting at much earlier. That thing has impressive torque between 2800 and 4200. Will be interested to see the 10 psi graph.

I like how STS is thinking outside the box. They went their own way and have put a more reasonable pricetag on their kit than any other.

I too am curious to see someone push this kit to see if it will keep up with the big turbo kits.

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Old 05-27-2004, 02:20 PM
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me too^
BTW wheres that 10psi graph amacgt, if you need someone to host it, the offer still stands.
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Old 05-27-2004, 06:38 PM
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i have asked jason at texas speed to email it to me and he has been busy and not got around to it yet i guess. I will call him tommorrow and make sure he sends it. sorry guys.
Old 05-30-2004, 02:45 PM
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Hey guys, I've seriously been thinking about buying this kit for my LT1 since the numbers are pretty damn impressive for stock parts. My question is, how does it sound? does it have the ricer BOV noise? the GNX jet engine taking off noise? or would it have the classic LT1 rumble?

also how much would the bottom end have to be built to handle this kind of power? i got about 108k on the engine with absolutely no problems. these seem like a great investment for a broke-*** guy like me
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these seem like a great investment for a broke-*** guy like me
My advice, If you're broke, dont even bother getting into FI right now.
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i agree, the kit is a good starting point but you will need much tuning... then with all the power, things start to break. save up some money first, then go with FI.
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My advice, If you're broke, dont even bother getting into FI right now
that's some good advice right there. specially with a LT1.

My question is, how does it sound? does it have the ricer BOV noise? the GNX jet engine taking off noise? or would it have the classic LT1 rumble?
here's a video, hope it works:

http://www.discountchips.net/2kss/vi...bolt1final.mpg

UPdate:

"The 93 Turbo Camaro went 600 rwhp and 723 rwtq at 12 psi today. Dyno graphs
will be posted on the site next week. Stock LT1 kit with GT67 turbo upgrade
and .96 A/R housing.

Later, Rick @ STS


now im not sure if the guy upgraded to a 383 yet or not. but thats pretty damn good."
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Originally Posted by Excal
"The 93 Turbo Camaro went 600 rwhp and 723 rwtq at 12 psi today. Dyno graphs
will be posted on the site next week. Stock LT1 kit with GT67 turbo upgrade
and .96 A/R housing.

Later, Rick @ STS
If an STS makes the tens, I'll stop being so rough on it. With that horsepower he's got no excuses.

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Old 05-31-2004, 12:48 PM
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hell, with that power he has no excuse not to go low-mid 10's
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Originally Posted by Excal
DUDE does a LS1 sound similar to that? that car sounded awesome. I dont want the kit to be quite i need a loud exhuast. If it is quite how can i make it that loud. Mods are in sig

Also is that car lowered in the movie?

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Originally Posted by supersp0rt
hell, with that power he has no excuse not to go low-mid 10's
The calculator I used said 10.40. Let's see it! Are those guys coming to the North/South shootout? Are any STS guys?

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qpm did 775 RWHP / 865 RWTQ and it went 10.17 and there are cars with even more power with slower E.T.s

he should go low 11s according to the numbers of the other kits on the boosted list. that is if its drag raced, because you know, it's not a race kit.
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What i don't understand is how this kit can make more power with a turbo then the turbo can support according to there compressor maps.
Fo instance the T67 @ 12psi can flow a max of 60lbs/min which equates to about 550rwhp and the 60-1 numbers are also higher then the turbo can support for a specific pressure ratio.
No offense guys I have no doubts that your kit works but the numbers sound a little inflated. Kinda reminds me of when the QMP kit came out and we all know how that turned out.


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