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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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I raced a gto the other day I think I should have beat a lot worse than I did. I kind of gave him the hit because we were lined up close and I did not want to chance it, but also feel like I could launch a lot harder if I could build boost off the line.... Looking for some ways to build boost of the line and somewhat quickly if possible?
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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Manual brakes or 2 step/trans brake.
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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transbrake, 2 step, and the right converter.
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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Sounds like a lingenfelter box is in my near future...
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 11:55 AM
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I don't really see a transbrake helping on the street, but a 2step yes, assuming you can footbrake to 2500 or so.
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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Manual brakes or 2 step/trans brake.


How do manual brakes help? Just curious for the future. Thank you!

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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 01:58 PM
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I have the msd 2 step and it works very well.
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Just picked up a lingenfelter lnc-2000 from my buddy for $140 only like 3 months old.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Install 2step then get in the driveway and figure out at what RPM does the car start to push through the brakes, then set the 2 step a couple hundred RPM before this. Example if you can foot brake the car to 3000 without it pushing but it starts to push at 3100-3200. Then set the 2 step for 28-2900, get on the footbrake and activate the 2step hold WOT to see if it holds. Like I said these are examples but some trial and error till you can get the car to a set RPM at WOT without rolling thru brakes is when you will really start to see some boost. However some of this will be dictated by your converter setup!
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Install 2step then get in the driveway and figure out at what RPM does the car start to push through the brakes, then set the 2 step a couple hundred RPM before this. Example if you can foot brake the car to 3000 without it pushing but it starts to push at 3100-3200. Then set the 2 step for 28-2900, get on the footbrake and activate the 2step hold WOT to see if it holds. Like I said these are examples but some trial and error till you can get the car to a set RPM at WOT without rolling thru brakes is when you will really start to see some boost. However some of this will be dictated by your converter setup!
Yes I can stall it up to about 3k rpm and honestly if I push the gas down slowly I can go wide open and not push through brakes.
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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2 step, the right tires,and a small shot of n2o just to spool the turbo in first. .. then Ud leave hard as hell.
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Originally Posted by ws6turbo
2 step, the right tires,and a small shot of n2o just to spool the turbo in first. .. then Ud leave hard as hell.
I have the 2 step and the right tires. N20 will never touch this motor.....
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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
I have the 2 step and the right tires. N20 will never touch this motor.....
Only a 75 shot and only up to 4k rpm in 1st until turbo is under boost won't hurt a thing.
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Originally Posted by ws6turbo
Only a 75 shot and only up to 4k rpm in 1st until turbo is under boost won't hurt a thing.
So spray from 3k-4k rpm? Sounds like a waiste of $. I just don't like n20 and don't want extra stuff on the car...
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
Yes I can stall it up to about 3k rpm and honestly if I push the gas down slowly I can go wide open and not push through brakes.
If you can do that, then you should be able to build all the boost you want. How much can you currently build?
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Old Nov 30, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sweet99ss
So spray from 3k-4k rpm? Sounds like a waiste of $. I just don't like n20 and don't want extra stuff on the car...
No I meant it would spray up until 3 or 4k... depending when your under full boost.lots of people have done it on here
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what trans are you running? don't think it was discussed. lol.
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On my car, I can see 3300 against the brakes. Any more throttle and the car will spin the rear tires. I could sit there for 5 minutes and never get past 100kpa. All I get is hot Trans fluid.

With the two step, after adjusting timing and fuel, I now get 5 psi at 2800 rpm. And the car isn't trying to "leave". Which allows the suspension to have a chance at working.

Still not enough though, so a PTC 9.5 is on the way. If I can get to closer to 4000 and 10 psi, the car should hit the 1.3x range in 60ft.

I'm with the OP. I got rid of the N2O bs on my car and wouldn't consider it again. When I see many turbo cars hitting bottom 1.3's on the foot brake, there is no need to spray too.

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Old Dec 3, 2014 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
On my car, I can see 3300 against the brakes. Any more throttle and the car will spin the rear tires. I could sit there for 5 minutes and never get past 100kpa. All I get is hot Trans fluid.

With the two step, after adjusting timing and fuel, I now get 5 psi at 2800 rpm. And the car isn't trying to "leave". Which allows the suspension to have a chance at working.

Still not enough though, so a PTC 9.5 is on the way. If I can get to closer to 4000 and 10 psi, the car should hit the 1.3x range in 60ft.

I'm with the OP. I got rid of the N2O bs on my car and wouldn't consider it again. When I see many turbo cars hitting bottom 1.3's on the foot brake, there is no need to spray too.

Ron
Agreed I was just saying if all else fails. .. I hate n2o also it's one more thing that can fail. But if setup right would be badass.

Ud think his car would leave hard as is,..
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Agree. He just needs some more work to get it to leave harder. As do I. :-)
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