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Old May 30, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Kyle,

Whatever you do, don't give up. Just a few little bugs to work out. I am sure with the help from Scott at SDCE you can get everything working. If the corvette guys can make high horsepower with these I am sure we can too. We can't give those vette guys any more reason to be cocky.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=795099

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Old May 30, 2004 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 1QWIKZ
i think the reason you went from 11psi to 7 is because your heads and intake. you no longer have the restriction there so your psi went down. just like my ATI went from 17psi to 11 after a head and intake swap on my mustang. you pullied up to make up the difference? thats the problems with blowers, hard to tune and major belt slippage. but you will see that going the nitrous route isnt always easier. there is always gonna be a factor involved in making power in any kinda car. if you are thinking about selling the blower to go nitrous, i would advise you differently. you already have all the supporting cast(fuel system, low comp motor, heads,cam) it would cost more money to start all over. i would say get a turbo instead. you will never see belt slippage or psi lost. the turbo woulda "pushed " more air to make up your 4 psi drop. thats the beauty of turbos, not preset to a certain rpm by a pully. this is just my take on it, but good luck with whatever you decide.

ps..my car is about a month away from being done...but then again, thats what i said 3 months ago.
EXACTLY This is what I was posting about a few post back. The less restrictions there are, the less boost you will see especially on a larger displacement engine. He is also choking the car with the twin intercoolers. He needs to pulley up to a 3.4 if he is going to spin it to 6800 rpm.

on a side note, both inserts are out and man o man is there a big difference in sound......now I see why I put them in. I think I will hit the dyno tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by MstgKillr
Kyle,

Whatever you do, don't give up. Just a few little bugs to work out. I am sure with the help from Scott at SDCE you can get everything working. If the corvette guys can make high horsepower with these I am sure we can too. We can't give those vette guys any more reason to be cocky.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=795099
i dont know what im going to do.......... i know all my friends want me to ditch it and go with a 250 shot.........
Kyle
Old May 30, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MstgKillr
Kyle,

If the corvette guys can make high horsepower with these I am sure we can too. We can't give those vette guys any more reason to be cocky.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=795099
What's keeping us F-body guys from using the vette brackets and pullies?
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Good question red dawg, I would think it has to do with the clearance between the s/c and our radiator. Anyone else?
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i dont know what im going to do.......... i know all my friends want me to ditch it and go with a 250 shot.........
Kyle
Your Friends? Do your friends give you cash for you to mod your car? If not, **** what your friends say. Like you said 6000 grand on the s/c is nothing to sneeze at. Just see it out, figure out whats going on and fix it,
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Your Friends? Do your friends give you cash for you to mod your car? If not, **** what your friends say. Like you said 6000 grand on the s/c is nothing to sneeze at. Just see it out, figure out whats going on and fix it,
J
its not just a simple swap. you will need different pistons, your heads wont optimize the combo..yadayada. you got all the stuff, make it work for you. never deviate from your primary goals, i have been racing for 10 years and thats the first thing i learned. if you get sidetracked, your car will never be at its best because you will be wondering about the next thing.
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Old May 30, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Your Friends? Do your friends give you cash for you to mod your car? If not, **** what your friends say. J
No but I am sure we save him out the *** from having to pay someone to do what we help Kyle get done,not to mention his car has taken permenant residence in my garage but then agian thats what friends are for. On a side note Kyle has more pressing issues to worry about than what amount of boost his car is making. I just think even with the bigger setup he should have made more than 489 even with 7lbs. Not bashing any of you guys or anything I have just yet to see one of the blower cars get it lined out to where it will run consistantly and run the number, don't get me wrong I love forced induction cars but not a blown LS1. I just think for what Kyle is wanting to do he could do it easier and cheaper with nitrous and be consistant that is just my opinion.
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Just add the nitrous on top of the blower.
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Originally Posted by 1QWIKZ
its not just a simple swap. you will need different pistons, your heads wont optimize the combo..yadayada. you got all the stuff, make it work for you. never deviate from your primary goals, i have been racing for 10 years and thats the first thing i learned. if you get sidetracked, your car will never be at its best because you will be wondering about the next thing.

i know its not that easy to do....... i dont know what i am going to do yet..... i want to see this thing thru....... but like tommy posted i have another issue right now that takes presadence over this right now........ Sorry for highjacking your thread Jer.....
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Old May 30, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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No but I am sure we save him out the *** from having to pay someone to do what we help Kyle get done,not to mention his car has taken permenant residence in my garage but then agian thats what friends are for. On a side note Kyle has more pressing issues to worry about than what amount of boost his car is making. I just think even with the bigger setup he should have made more than 489 even with 7lbs. Not bashing any of you guys or anything I have just yet to see one of the blower cars get it lined out to where it will run consistantly and run the number, don't get me wrong I love forced induction cars but not a blown LS1. I just think for what Kyle is wanting to do he could do it easier and cheaper with nitrous and be consistant that is just my opinion.
A friend would never mention that first sentence in a post or in person or give it that much thought to type it out, but that's me. I give my help willingly to my friends and let them have parts I don't use anymore, no sweat off my *****.
But then again, I am under the car myself doing my own work. My buddy Neal will help out on occassion and my buddy Josh helps when he can, but they will never have a say on what goes on with MY car or MY money and vice versa. Its easy to say, "hey just sell the blower, get some high comp pistons and some high comp heads, with a N2O kit and you will be set"...when it isn't your car. It also sucks to hear that kind of crap after you spent so much $$/time on the current set up, some friend huh. Garage.. man you have it good. I have a slab of concrete outside

I don't know where you have been, but my ATI car ran consistent numbers all season last year mid 11's to be exact and the MPH was always consistent 115-117. That is awesome for a car at this altitude...did I mention it was driven everyday? Its the few that are pushing the envelope that are running into issues, but hey LS1 FI hasn't been around for too long. I've been doing it for a while now since PD released the first FI kit for the LS1. For about 7-8 months I have been wrestling with pulley problems but now they are looking to be fixed.....Us ATI LS1 F-body Guys..Me, Kyle, Bos, Heath, Black LS1 T/A and a few others are making it easy for the rest who follow in our footsteps. Those who are looking for big boost and big power from their ATI kits just have to come here and look up what needs to be done to achieve big boost and big numbers. But it takes someone to walk those first steps. We did the stock ATI thing and now we are doing the built LS1/6 ATI thing now, gotta remember there weren't a lot of people doing this type of set up last year.

I know and you know, Kyles power problem lies elsewhere...So keep it there, I will out of respect for my friend Kyle.

Kyle, No problem buddy I just want to help see you through your problems. I know I might not be able to turn a wrench on your ride, but you know you can ask me anything and I will help the best I can from a state away. Like my profile says...always willing to help.
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Great post frcefed98. All you guys have been puting in alot of effort in your ATI set ups and I`ll give you props for all your hard work. I know what its like to put alot of time and $ in my ride and not get the results I`m looking for. Good luck to all you guys with the SDCE pulley/tensioners.
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Maybe you guys need to do some mathwork on your pulley combos.

LS1 Vortech kits use a 8.00 crank pulley and with a 3.12 blower pulley, the aftercooled kit is rated for 9psi. A few guys have upgraded to 2.50 pulleys to push the blower to 12 or psi on built engines. How does your ATI pulley combo stack up?


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