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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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So for the second time in less than 3 months or 3,000 miles the offset rocker on CYL #1 bolt has backed out and allowed the rocker to fall out of place and function. Anyone else seen this issue? All other are tight and it was torqued to factory spec. Also this time I put a lot of lock tite and its still backing out.

This was after repeated HIGH boost runs. Setup on heads are as follows:

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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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That has to be annoying. Weird though. I have never had one back out.
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 03:58 PM
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That has to be annoying. Weird though. I have never had one back out.
Yeah it's very odd. I called Erik @ HKE and he said the same thing. Never seen that.
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 06:06 PM
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are you cleaning the threads and applying blue locktite when torquing?
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 06:57 PM
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Is the loctite you're using up to the job of engine temperatures ?

Are the threads in any way loose at all ?
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Threads are clean and tight and the loctite is more than capable.
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 07:07 PM
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same bolt...ever replaced the bolts ?

God thread lock can be a ballix to screw out nevermind it backing out on it's own.

Just how loose or how many turns do you think it actually got ?
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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Degrease the bolt before putting loctite on it.
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
same bolt...ever replaced the bolts ?

God thread lock can be a ballix to screw out nevermind it backing out on it's own.

Just how loose or how many turns do you think it actually got ?
Enough to dislodge the rocker
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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Cant see any need to ever replace bolts...but maybe something is screwed up with it ?

I only loctite the intake side bolts because they break through into the runners, just use regular green Wurth stuff.

It's tight to remove even after the engine has been running for ages.
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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Yeah I'm going to do a really good job of cleaning it up and order a new bolt. I might order a smaller bolt as well. There is a possibility of bind.
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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I never use loctite just permatex high temp sealant never had one back out
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 08:15 AM
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Cleaned out the hole last night and ran a tap through it. None of the threads where missing and besides for a few chips and what looked like never seez at the bottom of the hole, all was well. The bolt was slightly bent but I'm almost positive that was a result of the rocker coming off and not the cause. Erik would have never assembled the motor with a bent bolt.

Anyhow, got a new bolt in with a little loc tite and we will see what happens from here.
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I make sure my bolts are clean, but I have never even used Loctite on them, and still never had one back out.
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I'd bet pretty big money that most GM techs don't loctite rocker bolts when they reinstall. One backing out is strange.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 3 window
I'd bet pretty big money that most GM techs don't loctite rocker bolts when they reinstall. One backing out is strange.
I agree but what the hell else could it be? No one has ever heard of such an issue.
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Originally Posted by oscs
I agree but what the hell else could it be? No one has ever heard of such an issue.
I was doing some testing up 99 a few weeks back and heard a weird sound in the top of the motor. It kind of went away so I just limped home and I felt like the car was down on power. I pulled the valve covers and sure enough I had a rocker bolt that had backed out. I took all the steps you did and haven't had an issue since. Nothing was damaged and I have no idea how it backed out.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou_tx_ss
I was doing some testing up 99 a few weeks back and heard a weird sound in the top of the motor. It kind of went away so I just limped home and I felt like the car was down on power. I pulled the valve covers and sure enough I had a rocker bolt that had backed out. I took all the steps you did and haven't had an issue since. Nothing was damaged and I have no idea how it backed out.
Well at least I'm not the only one.. Keep an eye on it man.
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Do you think that the bolt is just too small to withstand the pressure of a dual spring package? The kind of pressure these springs generate are good enough for a BBC engine which uses a MUCH larger stud. These bolts flex so much when changing the springs I keep thinking which one is going to strip out!!
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Originally Posted by 69-chvl
Do you think that the bolt is just too small to withstand the pressure of a dual spring package? The kind of pressure these springs generate are good enough for a BBC engine which uses a MUCH larger stud. These bolts flex so much when changing the springs I keep thinking which one is going to strip out!!
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