Supercharger vs Turbo.... OFFICIAL ARGUMENT THREAD.
04-14-2016, 04:29 PM
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Turbo or SC, they both become money pits!
Find a power level that keeps your car in decent shape and be happy. More power just breaks more ****, endless cycle. My vote is Procharger, F1A blower w/ open bypass valve!
Find a power level that keeps your car in decent shape and be happy. More power just breaks more ****, endless cycle. My vote is Procharger, F1A blower w/ open bypass valve!
04-15-2016, 05:59 AM
#90
In the 4+ years now of running a procharger, first with a D1sc at max rpm, and now with an F1a at about 80%, I have never tossed a belt, or shredded a belt. The only time I did, it was my fault for overtightening an idler pulley and crushing the bearing, which caused it to fail and lock up, which then took out the belt.
It's not 2003 anymore people. Pick up a D1 or F1a, an Aster bracket, an ebay FMIC, and supporting fuel mods and you have a very reliable 600-900rwhp setup.
It's not 2003 anymore people. Pick up a D1 or F1a, an Aster bracket, an ebay FMIC, and supporting fuel mods and you have a very reliable 600-900rwhp setup.
for running a blower. 
04-15-2016, 10:48 AM
#92
Been nitrous only, blower only, blower plus spray....twin turbos,.,..turbos have netted the best gains. Wish I would have started turbocharged but glad to have done it for the experience. Broken brackets, belts, idler pulleys, tensioners....I had enough with the blower routes. Granted, I wasn't using the LATEST blower bracket/pulley tech but,...for 3 grand, they can keep it.
04-15-2016, 12:32 PM
#93
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For me, I'm a street car, enjoy a/c, power steering, sway bars, but also like power.
So I was able to install a blower, retain everything just like factory, and make nearly 900 at the wheel, oh and have a civilized exhaust setup that still comes out the back of the car.
That was a tall task for a turbo. Trust me, I talked to a lot of people about it. I was told I'd have to move the radiator, or lose the a/c, or lose the sway bar, forget about having the exhaust exit out the rear, I'd need to have at least a cutout.
Also, lets not forget how critical all the pieces of a turbo puzzle need to be to play nicely together. A/r, cam specs, exhaust diameter and routing all play a role in having a setup work properly.
Just like it was said above, turbo setups require a lot of planning, fabrication, and even trial and error. So I'm not a fabricator, I can live with that. Maybe some day later in life I'll buy a welder, and spend some time learning to weld and I can fab my own setup.
Till then, I'll enjoy my no compromise 900rwhp setup street car.
So I was able to install a blower, retain everything just like factory, and make nearly 900 at the wheel, oh and have a civilized exhaust setup that still comes out the back of the car.
That was a tall task for a turbo. Trust me, I talked to a lot of people about it. I was told I'd have to move the radiator, or lose the a/c, or lose the sway bar, forget about having the exhaust exit out the rear, I'd need to have at least a cutout.
Also, lets not forget how critical all the pieces of a turbo puzzle need to be to play nicely together. A/r, cam specs, exhaust diameter and routing all play a role in having a setup work properly.
Just like it was said above, turbo setups require a lot of planning, fabrication, and even trial and error. So I'm not a fabricator, I can live with that. Maybe some day later in life I'll buy a welder, and spend some time learning to weld and I can fab my own setup.
Till then, I'll enjoy my no compromise 900rwhp setup street car.
cold ac, cruise, power steering and brakes, full interior
its not 900whp yet, i need to put my 4l80e and np149 in before i can turn up the wick, but a reliable turbo setup isnt that hard to accomplish.
a big procharger motor sounds way cooler though.
04-15-2016, 01:12 PM
#94
It's true, prochargers are expensive, even used, but that's at least the plus side, they hold their values over time.
But because of how simple they are, and not needing to redo the hotside, and fabricate moving stuff, it becomes a wash in the end.
But because of how simple they are, and not needing to redo the hotside, and fabricate moving stuff, it becomes a wash in the end.
04-15-2016, 01:14 PM
#95
i built this in about 2 weeks while i was recovering from cancer treatment
cold ac, cruise, power steering and brakes, full interior
its not 900whp yet, i need to put my 4l80e and np149 in before i can turn up the wick, but a reliable turbo setup isnt that hard to accomplish.
a big procharger motor sounds way cooler though.
cold ac, cruise, power steering and brakes, full interior
its not 900whp yet, i need to put my 4l80e and np149 in before i can turn up the wick, but a reliable turbo setup isnt that hard to accomplish.
a big procharger motor sounds way cooler though.
With a truck engine bay, it's completely different because of the extra space, doing that in an f-body is black magic.
I like going left and right just as much as straight, so for me, I love how linear the power delivery is, and the fact that I can run a bigger sway bar without any issue.
04-15-2016, 05:08 PM
#99
I would suspect reliability, performance, and efficiency are the reasons
A centrifugal takes the worst characteristics of a positive displacement blower and a turbo and then throws a high speed gear box into the mix aswell
A centrifugal takes the worst characteristics of a positive displacement blower and a turbo and then throws a high speed gear box into the mix aswell