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Old 05-08-2016, 10:19 AM
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Default on3 70 vs 76mm turbo for 4.8l ls9 cam need instant spool

Ok I currently have a 4.8l lm4 in a 00 wrangler hooked up to the stock jeep nv3550 5 speed

Engine currently has a radix m112 with the 6.0 pulley on it (12psi or so on the 4.8)

Looking to remove the blower and go to a turbo

Engine has an ls9 cam (not changing it)

Trying to do the sway fairly cheap so looking at on3 turbos
(I have built a turbo ls before so I understand that even a cheap setup isn't "cheap")

Rpm range is 2-6k
Would like full boost by 2500 Rpm (zero turbo lag)

I am fine with less hp overall (don't need 600 rwhp)

I'm thinking 450 rwhp and instant boost would be much more fun as this thing is street use only max boost ~12psi

I was thinking an on3 70mm or a low AR 76mm. Any thoughts?
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I dont think your get "instant spool" on either of those turbos. Ive done a 4.8 with truck heads and then 317's with the 76 and 70. The lower compression 317 heads were pretty laggy but even with the stock heads the 70 and 76 took a second to spool.

That 112 has to be peppy tho!
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Yes the m112 is instant but very inefficient

I bet I am losing 80+hp spinning the heat pump m112

I am probably gonna sell the jeep later this year but have the itch to turbo something and i have enough left over pieces from the last turbo setup that I can probably switch it over to a on3 70mm for less than the m112 setup is worth used

I think it should be fairly drivable with the 70mm and the 5 speed
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If you want instant, use a supercharger, if your current unit isnt big enough, fit a larger one.

You will never get instant with any turbo setup in the same way you will with a blower.

You may be able to get very fast and responsive with a small turbo setup....but it will never be blower instant no matter what anyone tells you.
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Even with a quick spooling turbo, that LS9 cam brings a whole new meaning to turbo lag.

JFR triple 12 and On3 70mm would spool very quickly on a 4.8.
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I think with a small enough turbo you could have immediate spool. My fusion has full boost at part throttle before 2k rpms. You will lose power up top as a result but immediate spool can happen.

A cam swap will also make that better. Not sure why you don't want to change it.
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cams going to suck and why limit yourself to 12 psi? either way id pick up a cheap borg s366 off ebay should be met your power goals and spool the fastest
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I could be wrong, but I don't think you will find any turbo system that will match the low end torque of a PD blower. And if you did, it would be top end limited just like a blower.
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Originally Posted by redss82
cams going to suck and why limit yourself to 12 psi? either way id pick up a cheap borg s366 off ebay should be met your power goals and spool the fastest
I agree with this.
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Originally Posted by LS1-IROC
I could be wrong, but I don't think you will find any turbo system that will match the low end torque of a PD blower. And if you did, it would be top end limited just like a blower.
And given he already has a blower...fitted and working, and doesnt care if he makes 450 or 600hp...as long as power is instant. It really does seem insane to want to change to a turbo setup.



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