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Old Nov 17, 2016 | 09:50 PM
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I have a LS3 stroker powered Honda S2000 that I am considering supercharging or turbocharging. Currently my electric steering rack sits a 1/2 inch in front of a stock Fbody balancer, and as such I am not sure if SC is even an option. Do kits exist that do not extend the balancer beyond the fbody stick out?

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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 06:27 AM
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Put a roots/ twin screw blower on it. A Whipple 2.9 sits 10.5 in above valley plate.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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C6 corvette Procharger kit runs on the engines main serpentine belt.

http://shop.brutespeed.com/08-13-Cor...stems_c599.htm
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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Why do you have electric steering in a sub 3000lb car? Get rid of it and slap a turbo in its place.
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:41 AM
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I'm not using the electric steering, it is gutted but the housing is still huge even empty. I could do a a rx7 rack but I'm not in the mood for another round of finding tie rods that keep the turning radius.

My set of stainlessworks up and forwards come today, but fitment is going to be sketchy. I might go back to the truck manifold setup, but I'd like some bling. I wanted the car boosted by tx2k(it's a 416 stroker atm) in march so if a supercharger could get me 700 wheel with minimal work at 2500lbs I'd be a happy man. Though I will probably just end up missing it and have a turbo car by July
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:48 AM
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Take it for what's it's worth (been in your shoes) but don't build your car around an event. You're going to end up wasting money and time. I did the same thing for TX2K15 and did mediocre. TX2K16 I ran nearly 15mph faster and knocked out some seriously fast cars. I took my time. If a turbo is what you want than take the time to make it happen correctly. My .02 anyways. Love the car and concept. Good luck!
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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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Wegnerautomotive.com (Casey W.) designed a great Eaton SC drive kit.

HIS method is to put the SC drive belt "first" the closest to the engine.
Thus a VERY short design.
Good for the SC snout.

Go to the Wegner site, just view this, call Casey for the distance.

I have used this kit, very good belt "rap", no flex, with long belt life.

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C6 corvette Procharger kit runs on the engines main serpentine belt.

http://shop.brutespeed.com/08-13-Cor...stems_c599.htm
Thanks! ProCharger's new direct drive 8 rib kit would get 850 to 900 rwhp with an F-1A with an LS3.

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Old Nov 18, 2016 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oscs
Take it for what's it's worth (been in your shoes) but don't build your car around an event. You're going to end up wasting money and time. I did the same thing for TX2K15 and did mediocre. TX2K16 I ran nearly 15mph faster and knocked out some seriously fast cars. I took my time. If a turbo is what you want than take the time to make it happen correctly. My .02 anyways. Love the car and concept. Good luck!
Yeah that sounds about right, maybe I'll shoot for WCFs. I had a good few months before the end of the year driving the car, but I miss that turbo thrill for sure even though the car launches significantly faster. Turbo seems like the better option for my pocket as well. Still have dual 46mm gates and a intercooler from when the car was pushing 730 with the four. Guess I'll price out a S476 or 480 and try to get ahold of some of the current boosted LS swapped S2000 swaps to see if I can get a manifold setup copied before I just settle on vbanded truck manifolds.

Thanks for the advice everyone
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Damn, I love the excess on this site. We replaced an engine that had like 150 ft lbs of torque with an engine with at least 3 times that much, and we still need to add forced induction! I would expect that a well built NA "LS3 stroker" should be able to severely overpower that 2800 lb chassis. Power to weight ratio on that S2000 would be on the norm with our typical 4.8/5.3 T4 turbo builds on our G bodies, F bodies, etc even before a power adder goes on. But no we still need to add a supercharger or a turbo, I have to respect that!

What about a pair of turbos, keep em high, and do hood exhaust exits?
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 12:46 AM
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I'd definitely consider twin turboing it. I have plenty of room. There are more than a few stock chassis S2000s running 7s so I am not too concerned about the chassis.

Car is far lighter than 2800 currently. Right now it is stitch welded, chromoly 8.8 IRS setup, 5 point, no soft top, gutted, carbon hardtop/trunk/hood/fenders, weld RTSs on all 4 corners, and big wilwood brakes. I cut 135lbs off the nose of the car and hodgepodged a onepiece+hood removable front. One of the lighter S2000s even with the v8. Unfortunately I am using a faceplated T56 still. Eventually I want to do a gforce or maybe go auto.

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The up and forwards hit pretty hard on the shock towers

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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Yeah that thing is badass. When I was making my swap car selection I considered an S2000 as well. You look like you have a ton of room for twins up front. Thats what I would do but I'm a TT guy. Hell it looks like it might be easier to fit two smalls than a big.

If you ever go automatic and have some coin to blow look at a built glide and gear vendors over drive. Mine ran me about $8500. I had one in my car with the 8.8 IRS setup and it was a badass setup. I use to cut 1.32 60' without even dialing in the suspension or launch and DRAG cars on the highway with way more power than me. It was highway monster yet drove badass in traffic.
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Looks like you need some custom made headers to fit in there, maybe some 1 5/8" primaries, to a 2 1/2" collector could fit ok? You could use a T4 flange right on the end of the header, and use light enough turbos the header could hold the weight of the turbo by itself. Those look like big headers your trying to fit. You probably won't be able to change your plugs at the track though? Since you have a snail on your bumper, it would be false advertising not to have at least 1 turbo on it? You could also make a remote turbo system work, like the STS kits do?

It doesn't look like you have space for a FMIC do you? If its mainly for drag racing you could do one of those fuel cell and A to W intercooler combos in the trunk. That would actually work well with a remote turbo back there as well, it would simplify plumbing. When I look at people doing turbo builds in pickup truck engine bays, I'm envious of the space they have to work. When I look at your build, I feel fortunate to have the space I do. You will however have a very unique project when your done. You gonna try to get AC on there some how?, JK.
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OK, "turbo" is it !

One problem I HAVE with my customers that "swap" is the Water Pump.

The Weger GM water pump solves these problems AND will flow more water at a higher pressure.

I also "reverse" the intake manifold in many cases.

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Very cool project you have going on there. What is the goal for this car ?
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Old Nov 19, 2016 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyBG
Since you have a snail on your bumper, it would be false advertising not to have at least 1 turbo on it?
Haha the turbo snail is a little different when you see the entire front of the car.. Mario Bullet chasing a Turbo Snail. Car used to be a S372 turbo four so I had the snail first to hide bumper damage from the license plate and added the bullet when i did the swap. I have plenty of room for a front mount, but I am considering the lingenfelter intercooled intake as well. I can reduce some of the pitch on the rad as well if need be and gain more room.

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I don't really have a track goal currently due to the cage. Mostly a just a street car since I can't bring myself to 10 point it(why did I choose a damn convertible) right now since the roof line is low and I would never drive it if it was any harder to get out. I am a fat *** so it is not easy with the door bar and kirkeys as it is.
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