HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Someone is full of **** if they think they gonna fab up a turbo system in 2 hrs.....end of starry. No use in even conversing with you.

JoeNova

When its on the dyno, there are no space constraints.
Hack the flanges off of truck manifolds, use OBX 2.5" to T3 transition flanges. A single 2.5" U-bend is enough to connect the truck manifolds to the transition flange. Quick and easy.
Turbos come with 2.5" V-bands. Just use leftover 2.5" piping. 45* down, 3' straight to the exhaust vent, 45* to straighten the pipe back out. We're talking about 8 cut/welds on a band saw.
Use the oil pressure sensor hole with a $6 fitting and a T to feed the turbos, return them into the pan via the oil level sensor hole with careful consideration for turbo placement and drain angle (they make a fitting for this).
You're looking at 90 minutes of cutting/welding for the hotside and 30 minutes to make up some feed/return lines.

I'd say 2 hours was impossible if I hadn't fabbed up more quick and easy turbo setups than the number of engines most people have wrenched on.
Hell, it took 10 hours or so to fab up the quad turbo setup on my corvette using blank header flanges and a box of 1 3/4" U-bends, 2.5" U-bends, and 3" side pipes. That includes all of the oil feed/return lines and shaping the tubing for the divided T3 flanges. Twins with 2.5" to T3 transition flanges and stock truck manifolds is GRAVY.

JoeNova

You can keep getting pissed all you want.

I offered to pay shipping, do the dyno for free, and put impossible odds against myself and you're backing out.
I've asked you to show us these 550whp N/A setups that make a turbo setup pointless, still nothing.

What a joke.

panda240ss

SHOOOOOT i wish! couple of months!
with a team anything is possible within 2 hrs!

MY_2K_Z

iTrader: (1)

Lmao how long do you think it takes to fab a hot side? It's really ******* easy. I builder kit from Columbia mandrel and 2 hrs and I'm done.

Seriously go back to Srk where people will listen to your bullshit. Your car is slow get over it. 500whp is nothing these days. I best you get walked by bolt on coyotes.

panda240ss

that is VERY true 500rwhp these days aint much shoot im shooting 700 in my 240sx and i still feel it aint much, my friend with a mk4 is making 1300 and that aint **** in the mk4 world. lol.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

I'm not pissed at all. I'm the one smart enough not to eff with turbos for 550whp range. I realize there are other ways. A solid built 5.7 in op's 2500lb car would be a 140mph car if you know what you're doin na. Not slow and not a joke at all.

Better be a hella team to get it done in 2hrs. Takes longer than that to get the **** ordered one would need. That is all part of building a turbo kit.

Weird how people wait months to get turbo kits when these guys can do it in 2hrs.

Bolt on coyotes ain't **** in my world. My slow na bolt on junk trapped 130+ on pump gas and that wasn't even in it's best power form.

But from the looks of yall being accepting of 550whp 5.7s it looks like yall's turbo 5.7 would get it's *** whooped by a turbo coyotah. From my na results mine would not.

And no....not one of you are building a turbo kit in 2hrs.

MY_2K_Z

iTrader: (1)

Next time I'll live stream it and post a link for you. The fact you think it's impossible shows why you stick to bolt ons.

islander033

Is there any section on LS1 tech where Hiollary doesn't get owned? HAHAHA

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

The fact that you think you can do a quality turbo kit in 2hrs shows me just how clueless you are on all things cars.

Not happening here do run along chump.

MY_2K_Z

iTrader: (1)

I've done more with cars than you could even dream. But good try man.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Yea I'm sure you have.

Post back in 2hrs with pics of a new one.

JoeNova

STIIIIIIIIIIILLLLL waiting to see all of these "easier and better than turbo" 550whp N/A 5.7 setups.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

I told ya about darths. Pretty easy to find. I have one going together so you'll have to wait on that till it's together.

It's been 2hrs. You should have another turbo kit together by now.

MY_2K_Z

iTrader: (1)

Triggered much? Soon I'll be dabbing up a new hot side for my car since I'm switching to a fully divided t6 setup and seriously I'm gonna video it. It'll probably be a couple months cause I'm still remodeling the house.

ddnspider

iTrader: (26)

Even Darth admitted the shortcomings for a street car on that motor. And Darth didn't make 550whp. Let's say he did......ONE motor did it lol. MAYBE a 2nd with that guy in the vette, forget his name, and that was racecar. I'll have less than $5k in my motor and turbo kit and should be good to at least 650whp Should post up dyno graphs of a 550whp NA setup and 550whp boosted setup and compare. Pretty easy to see what's what then.

JoeNova

Darth's build:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...host-hawk.html

1. Darth didn't make 550.
2. The Mamo 220 heads he used are $2600 which are more expensive than the cost of this 930whp 4.8 build: https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...sbe-4-8-a.html
3. Either the FAST 102 or MSD 102 that Darth used are each more expensive than an entire self-fabbed 550+ whp turbo setup.
4. Electric water pumps aren't always street friendly even if his may have been.
5. Solid roller in Darth's build. 550 wheel can be done on even a 4.8 with the stock cam.
6. Darth had a T56. This whole time I've been talking about 550whp, I've been talking about doing it through an AUTO.
7. That engine only made 441 ft-lbs. A turbo setup would have made 200 more.
8. Darth's engine is no longer running. It fried the oil rings and rod bearings.

Darth had an awesome setup, but it was FAR less cost effective and street friendly than a turbo LS1 of the same power level.
Even IF you hit 550 at the wheels (you won't), a basic turbo setup will still be a more cost effective, driveable, torquey setup with better fuel consumption.

And you're right. I could've fabricated a few turbo setups in the time we've been sitting here talking. How much time do you think you'll have invested in yours if it eventually gets done?

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

I'm not triggered. I'm just laying out the reality for ya.

Still like to see op's acceleration goals.

Darth made 540....that's what i said he made. On a 168k mile sbe.

One motor is all you need to do it. Others can be built off what was learned. Or people can be a idiot like you and do h/c and boost and not be any faster than a solid bolt on set up.

So wtf did you learn? What envelope did you push? Nothing that's what. Your **** performed like **** and I'm actually kinda of surprised these other idiots aren't laughing you out of here. Maybe some if their **** don't perform any better....idk.

Now I'm gonna be building off what darth did. He sent me his cam so I'll be using it. I'll be using some gmpp ls6 heads cs his mamo heads on a fresh bottom end. Hopefully in a short while we'll see somewhere near 550. My builder has built a 630hp crank 5.7 and it used stock 243s. So yea it is most definitely a possibility.

JoeNova

Good to know that someone else is building it for you. You're clearly not capable of doing it yourself.

ddnspider

iTrader: (26)

Might actually turn out cheaper than doing the labor himself. Funny part is I know nothing, yet my SBE D1SC at 7 psi went faster than his fox with an entire Cobra motor/blower swap.....and my 3800lb 383 turbo daily driver getting 30 mpg's went faster and quicker at 8 psi than the almighty "bolt-in" 3200 lb faceplated disaster on the 4th motor. Its sad since said disaster "cut a 1.2 sixty foot" on the hero pass and still was slower.