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With every post, he proves he's a bigger ******** than everyone already knew .

It's a mystery for sure....with someone with so much alleged knowledge and ability, who builds all these super fast cars that last for 200k without issue.....

He doesnt even know how to route an oil feed....plus his own mega reliable car has had the trans out a few times in as many months from another thread somewhere.

And it seems you wonder why people call you a troll ?

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i mean he's probably the most entertaining troll ive ever encountered---and if he believes his own ****, thats spectacular.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
With every post, he proves he's a bigger ******** than everyone already knew .

It's a mystery for sure....with someone with so much alleged knowledge and ability, who builds all these super fast cars that last for 200k without issue.....

He doesnt even know how to route an oil feed....plus his own mega reliable car has had the trans out a few times in as many months from another thread somewhere.

And it seems you wonder why people call you a troll ?

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the engineer at BW said the line for turbo oil feed was max length. And it drapes over the engine. Yeah, this is my first new turbo so I want to protect it. Im going to follow the BW engineers directions. So I was curious if anybody had suggestions besides go to -6an (they didn't). Do you? thats kind of what forums are for.

2. Last time I checked it was russian roulette pulling a transmission from a random junkyard in a random state. You had no idea whats inside it, neither did I. It took some testing to figure out why it wound up in the junkyard.

what, I am supposed to have ability of god and be able to tell whats wrong with every random junkyard transmission by just looking at it?

You think thats called trolling or negligence? I call it the only way/method to test and tune. Try again.
Its called a build for a reason. As opposed to buying a car for 150k and racing it to get circle jerks. You are the kind of person who would respect that more, aren't you? I should show you my other three cars maybe you will respect me then, oops I dont care.

Bottom line is you expect me to put a V8 into a Nissan and have been able to tell just by looking at used engine/transmission whether they are good or not. Then assault me for taking my time to prepare the car properly. It takes more than a couple months on a college budget with unknown condition engine/transmission to do these things. But keep the insults coming I like making you look how you look

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Could you not figure a mathematical formula to consider the length of the tube, viscosity of the oil, temperature of the oil to see how much of a restriction the line might be for the pump flow/pressure you have available and any rpm...also factoring in any fittings and whether any bending of the pipe might make a difference..and whether it goes up or down...left or right, or maybe a bit of a wriggle like a snake.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Could you not figure a mathematical formula to consider the length of the tube, viscosity of the oil, temperature of the oil to see how much of a restriction the line might be for the pump flow/pressure you have available and any rpm...also factoring in any fittings and whether any bending of the pipe might make a difference..and whether it goes up or down...left or right, or maybe a bit of a wriggle like a snake.
I was thinking about startup delay. The engineer had made it clear that the delay at startup for receiving oil was extremely important and suggested I not even drive the car for about a minute. It doesn't make sense to me but I don't want to void any warranty, they would be able to tell it was starved. He went on to say that an oil accumulator would likely double the life of the turbo, and the obvious stuff about cooling the rotor before shutdown.


It was Geoff at full race that suggested I was using the max length -4AN oil feed possible. Since we don't have OEM pump # of revolutions to clear the air from the pickup tube, not to mention the lengthy 6' relocated filter lines, and its a Nissan filter of all things, I think there may be too much delay and planning on an accumulator (and other things) for the next engine.


as a side note if I had run a loud exhaust I never would have heard the transmission pump making noise. It ran fine so it would still probably be working and I never would have had it out. that means nobody including myself would ever know anything was even wrong with it. That isnot a situation I would like to find myself in because the pump is perhaps the most important part of the trans, and losing it without warning would cost $2000+ because it takes everything out at once.

Another note is the car is setup for speedy engine/trans removal. The trans comes out in less than 2 hours, it isn't a big job because every bolt is easy to access as I molded the vehicle around the drivetrain. I can change the plugs in an hour from the top. Every coupler is straight. Core support has 4 stainless bolts in it. Being a reliable vehicle has nothing to the reliability of the engine/trans currently installed. It has to do with the rate(difficulty) at which they can be exchanged, and the supply of that exchange rate. For example I might have 8 engines sitting on a shelf identical for racing a boat that uses two at a time. I might change them just to change them at some point. The boat is "reliable" because it wouldn't matter if I exploded 6 engines, I could still drive it again the next day.
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
I was thinking about startup delay. The engineer had made it clear that the delay at startup for receiving oil was extremely important and suggested I not even drive the car for about a minute. It doesn't make sense to me but I don't want to void any warranty, they would be able to tell it was starved. He went on to say that an oil accumulator would likely double the life of the turbo, and the obvious stuff about cooling the rotor before shutdown.


It was Geoff at full race that suggested I was using the max length -4AN oil feed possible. Since we don't have OEM pump # of revolutions to clear the air from the pickup tube, not to mention the lengthy 6' relocated filter lines, and its a Nissan filter of all things, I think there may be too much delay and planning on an accumulator (and other things) for the next engine.


as a side note if I had run a loud exhaust I never would have heard the transmission pump making noise. It ran fine so it would still probably be working and I never would have had it out. that means nobody including myself would ever know anything was even wrong with it. That isnot a situation I would like to find myself in because the pump is perhaps the most important part of the trans, and losing it without warning would cost $2000+ because it takes everything out at once.

Another note is the car is setup for speedy engine/trans removal. The trans comes out in less than 2 hours, it isn't a big job because every bolt is easy to access as I molded the vehicle around the drivetrain. I can change the plugs in an hour from the top. Every coupler is straight. Core support has 4 stainless bolts in it. Being a reliable vehicle has nothing to the reliability of the engine/trans currently installed. It has to do with the rate(difficulty) at which they can be exchanged, and the supply of that exchange rate. For example I might have 8 engines sitting on a shelf identical for racing a boat that uses two at a time. I might change them just to change them at some point. The boat is "reliable" because it wouldn't matter if I exploded 6 engines, I could still drive it again the next day.


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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
I was thinking about startup delay. The engineer had made it clear that the delay at startup for receiving oil was extremely important and suggested I not even drive the car for about a minute. It doesn't make sense to me but I don't want to void any warranty, they would be able to tell it was starved. He went on to say that an oil accumulator would likely double the life of the turbo, and the obvious stuff about cooling the rotor before shutdown.


It was Geoff at full race that suggested I was using the max length -4AN oil feed possible. Since we don't have OEM pump # of revolutions to clear the air from the pickup tube, not to mention the lengthy 6' relocated filter lines, and its a Nissan filter of all things, I think there may be too much delay and planning on an accumulator (and other things) for the next engine.


as a side note if I had run a loud exhaust I never would have heard the transmission pump making noise. It ran fine so it would still probably be working and I never would have had it out. that means nobody including myself would ever know anything was even wrong with it. That isnot a situation I would like to find myself in because the pump is perhaps the most important part of the trans, and losing it without warning would cost $2000+ because it takes everything out at once.

Another note is the car is setup for speedy engine/trans removal. The trans comes out in less than 2 hours, it isn't a big job because every bolt is easy to access as I molded the vehicle around the drivetrain. I can change the plugs in an hour from the top. Every coupler is straight. Core support has 4 stainless bolts in it. Being a reliable vehicle has nothing to the reliability of the engine/trans currently installed. It has to do with the rate(difficulty) at which they can be exchanged, and the supply of that exchange rate. For example I might have 8 engines sitting on a shelf identical for racing a boat that uses two at a time. I might change them just to change them at some point. The boat is "reliable" because it wouldn't matter if I exploded 6 engines, I could still drive it again the next day.
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I type fast. This is actually slow because my fav keyboard is broke so I am typing slow atm.


Next, time is limited no matter what for every organism. Lifespan is indeed measured in milliseconds on the biological level. What you do for the next 0.001 seconds is extremely important, more than you can realize as a giant. For example there are protein transporters that change shape some eight times per second. The ATPase is around 20 times more powerful than a diesel engine of equivalent size. What you can't see, does happen, does matter, in the blink of an eye

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As I’m sure all your knowledge comes from what other people say in them. So that must make everything u say 100% true. Riggghhhhhttttttt.
You don't have to worry about that. If I use something from somebody else, I put it in quotes, I give them credit and I make sure it is established that I had nothing to do with it.

If you see an explanation just appear out of no where I typed it based on what I understand of how nature works. Not what other people say. That is why everything looks like BS: None of it is what other people say unless it is common knowledge or similar. And in those cases I still get **** because it looks like I am trying to explain something obvious that everybody already is aware of. Thats called heuristics btw and usually when it involves me I am attempting to connect the new idea with something established and well know. As above with the PCV example I provided both an example and situational. It is common knowledge that PCV has a fresh air source and a restrictor, however why is it that we never see PCV ports on turbo/compressor inlet tubes? Most are unaware this is a function of pressure drop post air cleaner, &c &c

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Do you think an oil bath air intake would be enough resistance to provide the back pressure needed to maintain the low end torque for maximal downgrade abilities?
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Well I tend to avoid oily filters because I want my compressor wheel to look the way it looks brand new, forever. Which is ironic since the compressor nut will rust right away if you do not keep it maintained with oil. But really we are worried about the particulate in the air that one is unable to see directly. Thus all the excess filtration.

You have no idea the lengths to which I will go to ensure the turbo/engine stays clean. I am planning to box that filter location in an aluminum-style box with an additional filter surface(s) around it that use OEM paper elements, in addition to the existing paper cone.

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There is nobody using 93 and 12+ psi of boost on any stock LS engine (for long) for a reason......
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19 PSI last weekend on a stock bottom end 5.3 on 93 octane no meth. Still running no issues and the plugs and oil look great. Been running over a year as a DAILY DRIVER.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
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19 PSI last weekend on a stock bottom end 5.3 on 93 octane no meth. Still running no issues and the plugs and oil look great. Been running over a year as a DAILY DRIVER.
What is this witch craft?!
No really, how did they do that, I've got a 5.3 I'm thinking of building and want to use 93 and no meth.
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Originally Posted by The ******
What is this witch craft?!
No really, how did they do that, I've got a 5.3 I'm thinking of building and want to use 93 and no meth.
They who? The car is member ls1charged on here and I do the tuning.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
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19 PSI last weekend on a stock bottom end 5.3 on 93 octane no meth. Still running no issues and the plugs and oil look great. Been running over a year as a DAILY DRIVER.
You mean talon fibbed ???? No way. All facts. U can’t possibly run that much boost on pump gas. Lol. I’ve been up to 26 psi on pump gas but run water /meth also so not really the same thing. Lol. It’s all in the tune tho.
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I run over 20psi all the time on pump, but have used as much as 25psi. Although obviously it's not a stock engine nor 10.5:1 etc.
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Wow, I came here to see what filter I should run on my 7875. Unfortunately I read all ten pages hoping to find an answer. Now I have a belly ache in my head, and I am much dumber than I was before, fml......



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