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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 11:00 AM
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hi all,

I admittedly know absolutely nothing about turbos. I am reading and reading and reading and trying my best to learn as much as possible.

I am putting together a parts list and starting to order parts for a turbo build. (im a N/A or nitrous guy)

I have a jet boat, and want to switch from my current high compression/Nitrous assisted 5.3 setup to a lower compression/turbo setup.

I am planning on putting together a forged 6.0 or maybe a 408. But lets lean towards the side of 6.0.

I would like to be able to make 1000+ hp, but I do not have a set number This will be a blowthrough setup with a CSU Carb. (most likely their dual needle/seat carb)

I am looking at a couple of turbos, and the way i understand their sizing/exhaust husing sizes.

One is a Borg Warner S366 with a .88 A/R housing.

The other is a T76 (cx racing) with a .68 A.R housing.

Any other recommendations? Im looking for somewhat budget friendly.

I would like it to spool relatively quick, Will be running twins.

for those that dont know, a jet pump loads an engine down like a Single Speed powerglide with a really loose convertor.

I dont need instant spool, but a second or two to a decent amount of boost would be preferred

Thank you for any info.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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The S366 in twins would be much better than the T76 turbos from CX.
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The S366 in twins would be much better than the T76 turbos from CX.

Thank you for the information
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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If you want a cheap turbo gamble, check out Rev9 turbos. They offer tons of them in the 62-72 range with appropriate sized turbines in T3 and T4. They also offer them in billet for $300 a pop.

I'm just not 100% on their durability. I have a pair of 6662 billet T4 turbos from them that I scored for $550/pair but haven't finished the car to try them out.
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I found a T72 with a .81 A/R on CX Racing's website.

The little i know seems like htis would be a good size. No?

https://www.cxracing.com/TRB-T72-P81-RR
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Any particular reason you want to go with twins instead of a larger single to make thing simpler?
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Any particular reason you want to go with twins instead of a larger single to make thing simpler?
Twins look better... Purely aesthetic reasons

However would a single be better? I figured smaller twins would spool faster.

Im an open book, ill take any suggestions
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Its largely a fitment/price/preference thing. Both can be made to spool equally well or make big numbers.
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Its largely a fitment/price/preference thing. Both can be made to spool equally well or make big numbers.
Well, im not worried about fitment.

Is it cheaper to go with a larger single?

What size/Ar should i be looking for in the realm of a single?
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Can be cheaper yes, one turbo one wastegate, gonna need something fairly big to make a clean 1000hp on a single 80+mm budget would be a s480 t6 with the large turbine
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FYI, carbureted turbo setups never last. Too much to go wrong.
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Single billet S480 will do the trick. If you want slightly faster spool, spring for the 1.25 T4 housing and keep the large wheel.

A/R itself means very little and doesn't determine overall size of the turbo housings.
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FYI, carbureted turbo setups never last. Too much to go wrong.
Why do you say that?
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Single billet S480 will do the trick. If you want slightly faster spool, spring for the 1.25 T4 housing and keep the large wheel.

A/R itself means very little and doesn't determine overall size of the turbo housings.
Like this one?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Borg-Warner...IAAOSw07VagON8
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or this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BorgWarner-...AAAOSwd4tT~iqC
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Originally Posted by steves86ta

This one. The 2nd one you listed is a T6 housing and will give you a slightly slower spool.
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Originally Posted by Black89Z51
This one. The 2nd one you listed is a T6 housing and will give you a slightly slower spool.
The T6 will also make more power, more efficiently and imo is more suited to a 6.0l engine size.
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The T6 will also make more power, more efficiently and imo is more suited to a 6.0l engine size.
Not always. It'll only make more power if the T4 is a restriction to begin with. 1000 HP has been done time and time again on the 1.10 and 1.25 A/R T4 housings with even the 87mm wheel.
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There's a thread in here right now where a guy with twin borg warner s366 turbo on a 408 made like 1250 to the wheels. I have a 6.0 twin box stock s366s full weight 2001 mustang that runs 5s in the 1/8 mile. On a jet boat twins is the Only way to go it looks clean and symmetrical as well as ease of install 2 headers 2 turbos no crossover no fabrication work to mess with. Plus u can pull the header off and leave the turbo mounted to service any part of the motor.
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Originally Posted by Dimeomboost
There's a thread in here right now where a guy with twin borg warner s366 turbo on a 408 made like 1250 to the wheels. I have a 6.0 twin box stock s366s full weight 2001 mustang that runs 5s in the 1/8 mile. On a jet boat twins is the Only way to go it looks clean and symmetrical as well as ease of install 2 headers 2 turbos no crossover no fabrication work to mess with. Plus u can pull the header off and leave the turbo mounted to service any part of the motor.
Thats a good point.

As far as mounting the turbos, with the ebay turbo headers, are they strong enough to hold the turbo(s)? Or should i make some braces?
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