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Old May 27, 2019 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ascastil
Yep, that's a very nice ride. NicD has an awesome build going on right now too, mint condition low mile C6Z. Wonder if it's done, havent seen any updates.
Is it ever done? LOL! I deleted the build thread when people started complaining about stupid **** so I just made a drag race results thread instead. Otherwise it's already getting hot here so racing season is about over until the summer is done. Otherwise I've just been putting gas in it and driving it around destroying tires. Oh yeah I also put in some bitchin Tillett seats and have a tighter converter going in shortly so I'm not running into the limiter at the end of the track.
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Old May 27, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
I think the big thing here is MM built his car 11+ years ago? Really a different era we are in now. He is a legend and I'm aware of what he's done. Specifics on his car were a little more difficult to find because his name gets so many hits in a search. I personally like this c6z better and if it was an auto it would be perfect for my use "IF" indeed that pump or other issues don't limit it from being truly street friendly.

To be honest I almost bought the same color car, but a base C6 when I was looking and decided on my GTO I currently own. I planned to do exactly what I did to my GTO to the base C6. So I may be a little biased to a C6 over an fbody also.
I think he either 3 or 4 peated in the king of the street yearly race. I prefer something that actually runs and proves it instead of a Dyno graph. Has that c6 been down the 1/4?
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Old May 27, 2019 | 05:13 PM
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I think he either 3 or 4 peated in the king of the street yearly race. I prefer something that actually runs and proves it instead of a Dyno graph. Has that c6 been down the 1/4?
Don't know the history of the car or the people building it other than youtube. At the beginning of the video they show him breaking it at the track which started the new build process. So I'm sure it will be ran so we can see what it does. Really being a manual the ET is driver dependent. With a great driver or an auto that car should go 8's easily without even trying.

MM is a great guy who built an amazing car no doubt. I just like the C6. Things have changed a lot and what was considered a "race car" 11 years ago is now considered a street car. Now cars with turbo's out the hood, fender exits, massive weight reduction, and tubular front ends are considered street cars. This C6z is definitely a lot more streetable than some I've seen called street cars.
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Old May 27, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NicD
Is it ever done? LOL! I deleted the build thread when people started complaining about stupid **** so I just made a drag race results thread instead. Otherwise it's already getting hot here so racing season is about over until the summer is done. Otherwise I've just been putting gas in it and driving it around destroying tires. Oh yeah I also put in some bitchin Tillett seats and have a tighter converter going in shortly so I'm not running into the limiter at the end of the track.
You should put the build thread back up and just have the mods clean it up. It was a good build and it would be nice to be able to follow the progress.
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Old May 27, 2019 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
... Now cars with turbo's out the hood, fender exits, massive weight reduction, and tubular front ends are considered street cars...
Not to me.
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Old May 27, 2019 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Not to me.
I agree with you on that. The point being winning street car events takes a lot more now. Whether we consider them true street cars or not doesn't matter that is the type of car you will be going against.
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Old May 27, 2019 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I think he either 3 or 4 peated in the king of the street yearly race. I prefer something that actually runs and proves it instead of a Dyno graph. Has that c6 been down the 1/4?
Not yet was as it was just completed but yes before this build he had it at the track a lot. He drove it home yesterday. Every build he has done he takes to the track and street races. I’m sure he’ll be dialing it in to see what it can do.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I think he either 3 or 4 peated in the king of the street yearly race. I prefer something that actually runs and proves it instead of a Dyno graph. Has that c6 been down the 1/4?
This C6 ran 9's back when it was cam and 100 shot.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
This C6 ran 9's back when it was cam and 100 shot.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicle-c...king-sold.html

Went mid 8's.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I don't see many cars making 1200+ autox or road coursing so handling and brakes are less important. I thought MM had it manual and swapped over when he started going quick? I love c6z looks, no denying that.
The best street car shouldn't be a one trick pony. Beauty of in cabin boost control, turn the boost down to gate and hit some backroads! Brakes are important to me and why I don't run skinnies, I hit them 6 pots hard! I rank having tiny front brakes and tires right up there with having a fender exit.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I'm aware, I was just saying this C6 has hit the track before when it was much slower. I'm sure he will take it back in current form.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
The best street car shouldn't be a one trick pony. Beauty of in cabin boost control, turn the boost down to gate and hit some backroads! Brakes are important to me and why I don't run skinnies, I hit them 6 pots hard! I rank having tiny front brakes and tires right up there with having a fender exit.
I agree with this completely.

Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
I'm aware, I was just saying this C6 has hit the track before when it was much slower. I'm sure he will take it back in current form.
I'm not knocking the car by any means. Just saying get a pass before claiming best street car ever.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I agree with this completely.


I'm not knocking the car by any means. Just saying get a pass before claiming best street car ever.
Just to be clear the owner or shop that built it never made that claim. I made the thread title as an attention grabber for a street car that in my opinion is amazing. Of course it's hard to say any street car is the best ever when there are thousands of amazing builds out there with different goals. If we are talking street cars not everyone cares about the 1/4 mile either. I've always had a personal rule for my cars that I go from 18" wheels with tires that are rain capable to 15" drag radials and skinnies as my only change from daily driver to drag strip.

Since this is a manual car what did MM run with a manual just to compare apples to apples? Again no disrespect at all just looking for a fair comparison.

It also gets old when the street car people use excuses when someone else goes faster at the track to some how discredit their car as not being "street" by their definition. I ran over 100 passes in the 10.2 to 10.3 range with my daily driver back in 2007 with a different GTO which is a terrible drag chassis. I know how things have changed directly as from 2007 to 2008 hundreds of races and only lost once to a fox body street or track. Today with those times you are irrelevant. Things have changed dramatically.

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Old May 28, 2019 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
Just to be clear the owner or shop that built it never made that claim. I made the thread title as an attention grabber for a street car that in my opinion is amazing. Of course it's hard to say any street car is the best ever when there are thousands of amazing builds out there with different goals. If we are talking street cars not everyone cares about the 1/4 mile either. I've always had a personal rule for my cars that I go from 18" wheels with tires that are rain capable to 15" drag radials and skinnies as my only change from daily driver to drag strip.

Since this is a manual car what did MM run with a manual just to compare apples to apples? Again no disrespect at all just looking for a fair comparison.
It had a 4l80e in the car....i.e. over drive. Not some th400 car. There's a fastest 6 speed list (that my pig of a ride somehow made it on ). You can search for the fastest with a stick if you'd like and have a new best street car

And I know the owner/shop didn't claim best street car ever. People make 1000+ hp all the time now in all different shapes and sizes and claim street car. There's plenty of examples of comparable cars out there. The differentiator is how they perform and what they had to sacrifice to get their performance while still claiming a street car. IMHO MM is the best example of not sacrificing and getting the highest performance that was also reliable and repeatable....no hero passes. Look at the link again and see what he won or came in 2nd year after year. Show me another LS car that's just as accomplished and streetable as that car was. Honestly open to see some other examples. Parish also had a bad truck that performed.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
It had a 4l80e in the car....i.e. over drive. Not some th400 car. There's a fastest 6 speed list (that my pig of a ride somehow made it on ). You can search for the fastest with a stick if you'd like and have a new best street car

And I know the owner/shop didn't claim best street car ever. People make 1000+ hp all the time now in all different shapes and sizes and claim street car. There's plenty of examples of comparable cars out there. The differentiator is how they perform and what they had to sacrifice to get their performance while still claiming a street car. IMHO MM is the best example of not sacrificing and getting the highest performance that was also reliable and repeatable....no hero passes. Look at the link again and see what he won or came in 2nd year after year. Show me another LS car that's just as accomplished and streetable as that car was. Honestly open to see some other examples. Parish also had a bad truck that performed.
So it was an auto car when it ran mid 8's that was the question. Not sure why you bring up th400 when the car in this thread is a manual. I believe Leroy is the fastest stick car, but I don't consider that nearly as "streetable" as this car. He has driven it on the street, but I've seen local 4 second 1/8th mile cars driven on the street as well that certainly couldn't be driven daily by any means.

Things I care about...
Full interior, full exhaust out the rear with mufflers, dot tires, pump gas or E85 no race gas or methanol (meth/water inj ok), current license registration, all working lights, can be driven long drives on the free way or around town in stop and go without issues. Doesn't need to be auto cross capable, but driving on curvy 2 lane black top should be fun and not a struggle for it. Those are the primary things off the top of my head.

Notice I put a question mark at the end of my thread title and then said I love this car in my original post along with video of the build. I think it's a sick street car and definitely one of my favorite builds that I've seen. Again hard to say any one car is the best I've seen a lot of late model Camaro zl1's that were amazing as well as plenty of c7's that I'd love to own also. This one just kind of stood out to me.

What MM did running mid 8's at the time was amazing and worth his place on the hall of fame no doubt at all. I mean that absolutely amazing accomplishment at that time. My issue is expecting anything truly daily driveable to win "street" car drag racing in the current state of drag racing is asking ALOT. Show up to a "street" car drag race even here in the Midwest farm country and you are going against 4 second 1/8th mile cars. Do you and I consider them street cars....NOPE, but no one else cares it's a street car event if it has a plate on it and they call it a street car that is what you are going up against no one cares if you daily your car and they trailer theirs. So we can compare times, but asking him to win "street" car races in the NO prep era where these are clearly race cars is asking a lot of any daily capable street car.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 06:36 PM
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I don't disagree with anything above....just was pointing out that MM wasn't in the "Midwest/street outlaw" category....that's why I said it had an OD trans and was a DD after all at one point and still kept all the creature comforts to my knowledge.....Ran the number and won the races on top of being a true street car. Proven, that's all. Will like to see this car you posted get some seat time.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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Here is a C7 I just found mid 7’s not a lot of detail on the car, but full interior and ac...

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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MY_2K_Z
You should put the build thread back up and just have the mods clean it up. It was a good build and it would be nice to be able to follow the progress.
Maybe, but it seems most people on here lately only care about spending the least amount of money as possible to make a 1/4 mile pass, AKA junk **** that is lucky to make a couple of passes before blowing up. I'm not even remotely interested in junk yard **** and when those clowns came into the thread I said **** it and just deleted it. I guess I'll just have to cry myself to sleep in my new ZR1 and Z06s. LMFAO
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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
Here is a C7 I just found mid 7’s not a lot of detail on the car, but full interior and ac...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBNlhj5uYjs
F1x blower.....known for it's DD friendly nature lol.
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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:49 PM
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F1x blower.....known for it's DD friendly nature lol.
??? I drive my car anywhere and everywhere without issue and it has an F1x.
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