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Old May 28, 2019 | 09:09 PM
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Lol that blower is twice as street friendly as the **** show of a turbo setup on the OPs post
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Old May 28, 2019 | 09:22 PM
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F1X is super street friendly and just so happens to be capable of 1300whp
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Old May 29, 2019 | 06:13 AM
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Little loud for my taste when cruising around in a street car. Shoot my D1SC was loud to me.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 07:02 AM
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I think the best thing to come out of this thread is a discussion on what a street car is to different people.

I respect the junk yard builders, but I don’t like the criticism they throw at the guys that build nice stuff.

Late model cars cars have gotten so fast that people building older stuff have turned to less and less street friendly setups to beat them. Let’s face it turbos out the hood or no hood at all with no air filters and fender exit exhaust with no mufflers are not daily friendly. What it amounts to is a cheaper and easier way to fab a turbo setup rather than fit it under the hood and run exhaust out the back with mufflers.

Then there is the opinion of how loud of a blower is acceptable. That is more opinion as I don’t like the sound of even a small roots blower at all. I went with the D1x with helical cut gears because I wanted it quiet. With the current state of things I do see myself eventually going to an F1a-94 when I get a forged short block. I don’t expect it to be any less streetable, but louder and loose the sleeper status.

Some of the stuff running on street nights does make me sick though...Plates with a sticker that is a few years old, no power steering, gutted with a little Holley screen for a dash, drag brakes, slicks, no overdrive with an 1/8th mile gear, etc. Until track promotion and staff start putting integrity of a street event over accepting that entry fee from anyone that shows up its only going to get worse as more people say...what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 07:26 AM
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According to some the Dragy will replace all drag strips anyways
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Old May 29, 2019 | 08:40 AM
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Cars come/came off the show room floor without power steering, AC, and even glides..

Never have seen one come off without a full exhaust with mufflers, air filter , ect



The draggy is just a truth teller. Most of these supposed monster rwd street cars are an embarrassment getting down the actual street

Part of "streetcar" is getting down the street in street trim

Put a draggy or vbox in most of these cars and get some 60-130 licks on the actual street and they would be humbled bigtime

Big Dyno sheets don't translate to fast on the street with RWD
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Old May 29, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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While everyone is soapboxing.......I could care less about your bolt on record because either you're too cheap to spend money on actual parts or you just want to claim quickest/fastest with "only XYZ parts". Go ahead and add in the labor hours, some of whom have thousands of hours into their setups, and multiply it by a typical labor rate and see who has less into their car.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NicD
??? I drive my car anywhere and everywhere without issue and it has an F1x.
Just my opinion but driving anywhere and everywhere with a glide sucks! Sure you can do it, but its not that much fun at least to me but opinions obviously vary. Sure its fast in a straight line which again isn't everything.


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Little loud for my taste when cruising around in a street car. Shoot my D1SC was loud to me.

Agree, Procharger whine is cool for about 30 mins, then annoying after that. I'd pull up and most places would ask if its broken. A procharger and a glide cruising at 80+ MPH is nerve racking, RPM is high, and MPG sucks, a street car shouldn't have to stop for fuel every 100 miles.



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Cars come/came off the show room floor without power steering, AC, and even glides..

Never have seen one come off without a full exhaust with mufflers, air filter , ect

The draggy is just a truth teller. Most of these supposed monster rwd street cars are an embarrassment getting down the actual street

Part of "streetcar" is getting down the street in street trim

Put a draggy or vbox in most of these cars and get some 60-130 licks on the actual street and they would be humbled bigtime

Big Dyno sheets don't translate to fast on the street with RWD
Traction control... it's not hard to hook a decently powerful street car 60-130. Hence why in the video they show Holley using the front ABS sensors

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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Just my opinion but driving anywhere and everywhere with a glide sucks! Sure you can do it, but its not that much fun at least to me but opinions obviously vary. Sure its fast in a straight line which again isn't everything.
Well it certainly wouldn't be my first choice, I have other cars for cruising long distances. But it's not an issue and having that kind of power on tap with no lag is absolutely hysterical. Any car that makes 1500 horsepower is going to have a compromise, and that usually is the transmission selection for obvious reasons.

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Agree, Procharger whine is cool for about 30 mins, then annoying after that. I'd pull up and most places would ask if its broken. A procharger and a glide cruising at 80+ MPH is nerve racking, RPM is high, and MPG sucks, a street car shouldn't have to stop for fuel every 100 miles.
Procharger has helical gear options for most of their blowers, they aren't loud at all. With the correct rear gear selection cruising at 70 mph is a non-issue (our speed limits here are 65 anyways) and mileage is surprising good for a 1500 horsepower car. Horsepower = fuel and cruising at 2500 rpms on the freeway is not bad at all, hell a stock C6 ZR1's 6th gear puts it only a few hundred RPM below that.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
While everyone is soapboxing.......I could care less about your bolt on record because either you're too cheap to spend money on actual parts or you just want to claim quickest/fastest with "only XYZ parts". Go ahead and add in the labor hours, some of whom have thousands of hours into their setups, and multiply it by a typical labor rate and see who has less into their car.
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the win light so I don’t make excuses about losing. Just call it what it is...if you have a race car just admit it and say but I won tho...lol.

I like guys bragging about bolt ons only also on a brand new car with a blower. Ok bolt ons and tunes on those are expensive as hell and the car was over 60g to begin with. Then on the other hand you have the junk yard guys bragging they went faster for cheaper...well not after you figure in the 60g truck, 20g trailer, and name brand tools you used to get it here while I drove mine here and built it with harbor freight tools lol

Man I wish this rain would stop so I could be driving instead of whining on the internet...lol.

In the end its all opinion and we are all free to do things things the way we like.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by NicD
Well it certainly wouldn't be my first choice, I have other cars for cruising long distances. But it's not an issue and having that kind of power on tap with no lag is absolutely hysterical. Any car that makes 1500 horsepower is going to have a compromise, and that usually is the transmission selection for obvious reasons.

Procharger has helical gear options for most of their blowers, they aren't loud at all. With the correct rear gear selection cruising at 70 mph is a non-issue (our speed limits here are 65 anyways) and mileage is surprising good for a 1500 horsepower car. Horsepower = fuel and cruising at 2500 rpms on the freeway is not bad at all, hell a stock C6 ZR1's 6th gear puts it only a few hundred RPM below that.
I haven't seen a helical gear set option for F1X blowers or anything bigger then a D1 actually but perhaps they are out there. I also haven't seen either of them make good power without being overspun which adds to the noise.

You have a lot more self control then I do with not speeding. I cruised to work at 90 this morning, would really suck having to go slow with a bunch of power on tap. When I had a glide and 3.4 rear gear even on 28" tire it was 3k+ RPM with any mild acceleration or giving it gas to go uphill granted I never drove it at 65 either but it got really old after about an hour of driving. Either way to each their own, I much prefer a street car to have a manual and I'm not a big fan of superchargers so just goes to show everyone has different views. Have fun with your car, I could never bring myself to swap an auto into a vette.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is the win light so I don’t make excuses about losing. Just call it what it is...if you have a race car just admit it and say but I won tho...lol.

I like guys bragging about bolt ons only also on a brand new car with a blower. Ok bolt ons and tunes on those are expensive as hell and the car was over 60g to begin with. Then on the other hand you have the junk yard guys bragging they went faster for cheaper...well not after you figure in the 60g truck, 20g trailer, and name brand tools you used to get it here while I drove mine here and built it with harbor freight tools lol

Man I wish this rain would stop so I could be driving instead of whining on the internet...lol.

In the end its all opinion and we are all free to do things things the way we like.
Wait... who has a $60k truck, $20k trailer and a junkyard engine? Seriously that's funny!
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Old May 29, 2019 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Wait... who has a $60k truck, $20k trailer and a junkyard engine? Seriously that's funny!
Im bored waiting for my summit order to show up so I’m just playing around at this point. I probably exaggerated the value of the truck and trailer, but I’ve seen it. A pile of crap fox body with a junk yard LS turbo with a nice truck and trailer with snap on everything pretending to be the low budget guy.

Everyone doing things differently is part of the fun of our hobby...options!
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Old May 29, 2019 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
I haven't seen a helical gear set option for F1X blowers or anything bigger then a D1 actually but perhaps they are out there. I also haven't seen either of them make good power without being overspun which adds to the noise.
They are available upon request, my buddy is currently testing the helical gear option with his F1x. Mine made 1300 rwhp through a glide at it's rated speed, not overspun at all. Then again I rev to 8000 rpms with my setup so cruising at 2500 rpms is nothing.

Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
You have a lot more self control then I do with not speeding. I cruised to work at 90 this morning, would really suck having to go slow with a bunch of power on tap. When I had a glide and 3.4 rear gear even on 28" tire it was 3k+ RPM with any mild acceleration or giving it gas to go uphill granted I never drove it at 65 either but it got really old after about an hour of driving. Either way to each their own, I much prefer a street car to have a manual and I'm not a big fan of superchargers so just goes to show everyone has different views. Have fun with your car, I could never bring myself to swap an auto into a vette.
I just don't speed around on the freeways, it's boring compared to a hard launch on a track I guess so it just doesn't seem worth it. Plus I have 3 other cars that I can drive if I really want to go fast on a public road that handle like they are on rails. For me I would much rather win races and manual transmissions just don't do that with any consistency at this power level nor do they live long enough to really have fun with it before you are pulling it and rebuilding it. It's funny though, because my other newer Corvettes have autos as well and they came with it from the factory and they are faster than their manual trans cousins even stock let alone modified in any way.
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Slow sedan is one of the most special rtards on this site. Don't waste your time

Your stuff is 10x more reliable and street able than the hack **** he builds
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Old May 29, 2019 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
Im bored waiting for my summit order to show up so I’m just playing around at this point. I probably exaggerated the value of the truck and trailer, but I’ve seen it. A pile of crap fox body with a junk yard LS turbo with a nice truck and trailer with snap on everything pretending to be the low budget guy.

Everyone doing things differently is part of the fun of our hobby...options!
Guess it depends, some guys also use their truck for work, sometimes the trailer and tools as well. Plus not everyone wants to spend $10k+ on a built engine when a fairly light chassis like a fox body will regularly run 8's with a SBE 5.3L. Heck guys are running pretty quick in pickup trucks and heavy sedans with 5.3's. Honestly looking down on someone because they race with a SBE vs a built engine is pretty silly, especially when its not class racing and its guys just having fun in a garage built car.
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
Slow sedan is one of the most special rtards on this site. Don't waste your time

Your stuff is 10x more reliable and street able than the hack **** he builds
Not exactly sure what you don't like about me, nor do I really care. But if you are going to spew nonsense at least back it up with facts. So what exactly is hack about what I build and what the heck isn't streetable about it? I don't think you actually have any idea about what vehicles I own or have built. To further backup that you have no clue what you are talking about, I have the same car he does it just happens to still be a perfectly streetable manual trans, full exhaust, AC, twin turbo vs an auto drag race oriented build. But you deem yourself to be quite an expert so I'm sure you will enlighten me with tons of facts about my own life.
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Originally Posted by NicD
They are available upon request, my buddy is currently testing the helical gear option with his F1x. Mine made 1300 rwhp through a glide at it's rated speed, not overspun at all. Then again I rev to 8000 rpms with my setup so cruising at 2500 rpms is nothing.


I just don't speed around on the freeways, it's boring compared to a hard launch on a track I guess so it just doesn't seem worth it. Plus I have 3 other cars that I can drive if I really want to go fast on a public road that handle like they are on rails. For me I would much rather win races and manual transmissions just don't do that with any consistency at this power level nor do they live long enough to really have fun with it before you are pulling it and rebuilding it. It's funny though, because my other newer Corvettes have autos as well and they came with it from the factory and they are faster than their manual trans cousins even stock let alone modified in any way.
I agree a manual is harder to race in every regard, some people like that challenge and keeps them engaged. Autos are great for going fast and getting the most out of a setup, but they come with their own problems and limitations. To each their own, but back to the original topic... best street car ever in my opinion is not a glide swapped vette and in your own words it seems that you agree.
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Old May 29, 2019 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Not exactly sure what you don't like about me, nor do I really care. But if you are going to spew nonsense at least back it up with facts. So what exactly is hack about what I build and what the heck isn't streetable about it? I don't think you actually have any idea about what vehicles I own or have built. To further backup that you have no clue what you are talking about, I have the same car he does it just happens to still be a perfectly streetable manual trans, full exhaust, AC, twin turbo vs an auto drag race oriented build. But you deem yourself to be quite an expert so I'm sure you will enlighten me with tons of facts about my own life.
I don’t look down on anyone at the track sbe or otherwise. I’ve had built motors in the past and sbe now. When Fox bodies with junk yard motors first became a thing I thought it was cool, but now there are so many out there I’m over it. Winning is winning and I mostly see junk yard guys talking trash about guys with nice stuff not the other way around especially on this site.

It takes a hell of a lot to run 8’s in a gto while it would be much easier in a fox body it’s not what I’m interested in. I’ve set a goal of 9.5 driven to and from the track full weight gto. We’ll see if a forged ls2 and a maxed D1x will do it eventually or else I’ll go to an F1a-94 if need be.
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I have the standard gears in my D1X and while I can hear it at times especially when I’m outside of the car I can barely
hear it from inside. Close my factory exhaust valves and the only thing you can really hear with the windows down is the blow off valve between shifts and this a 980rwhp streetcar with a manual, ac, navigation, and bluetooth.
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