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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 11:24 AM
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In short....people who can't build a real street car build a compromised race car and call it a street car. The end
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Game ova
Anymore, it seems that many see a street car as one that can be tagged and insured, and doesn't overheat. There's little regard as to how the exhaust is ran, and that's even if it has exhaust. More and more, I see the standard exhaust out the fender with the obligatory chrome accent around the new hole in the fender. Another one of the things you will typically see in these so called street cars is what I call the racecar dash, the blue screen holly, or some other screen. Then to finish it off, there will definitely be no AC or heat, and many times no passenger seat, and forget about a nice sound system. Instead there will be a huge ice chest with piping ran throughout, to keep the "street car" from popping pistons. A real deal street car, is one that has full interior with comfortable seats, heat and cold AC, some jams, can take your woman on a date, and not smell like exhaust fumes by the time you get to wherever you are going. It will also be reasonably reliable, not needing a special ritual to get the thing to run. You should also be able to drive it to and from the track at will, this will exclude cars that run solely on methanol or alcohol, as I'm not aware of any gas station that sells it. The term "street car" has been completely abused, and it's getting worse. From what I can tell, the vette that OP posted, is a truly legit street car, as well as the 3rd gen in the video. Imo, these are fine examples of what it means to be a street car. Much of the stuff around forced induction labeled as being a street car I shake my head at, often times the car is fast.... but that's where it ends.
I agree with all of this! What you first described was what I’d call a streetable race car. I have several friends with builds like that. I’ve also got friends that blur that line a little because they still have exhaust all the way out the back and while they’ve done a lot of weight reduction it’s been done well with clean interior and lots of expensive parts and/or fabrication. The light weight front drag brakes even are a questionable thing for a daily car though.

A true street car in my opinion needs to be daily capable. Like NicD’s situation...he has several nice rides so while his F1x vette may not be the most comfortable of his rides for a long trip it could do it if he needed it to.

Taking it out on a short drive a few times a year doesn’t count as a street car. On some YouTube videos I watch you will see guys video themselves driving the car to the gas station or even fast food. My opinion is if you have to make a big deal about driving the car on the street and remind the viewers that is what you are doing then it probably isn’t a daily capable ride.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
In short....people who can't build a real street car build a compromised race car and call it a street car. The end
I would add in cost as well. It’s expensive to build a super fast street car while maintaining complete daily drive ability.

For example nice looking comfortable race seats are more expensive than a single low quality race seat. Building a nice cage in a full interior car and having it look clean is hard and expensive compared to just gutting it, throwing a cage in with no regard to fitting the interior well because you are not putting most of it back in any way. Cutting weight is easier/cheaper if you just rip everything out. On the other hand tubular cradles, billet blocks, light weight brakes, and other light weight parts are expensive.

I fully respect the cars that are insanely fast and may be more race car than street car because they push limits that we can all learn from. They also lead to product development as manufacturers want to build the best parts possible to go on the fastest cars and outperform their competition. This is why we can do some of the things we do with true street cars these days. Technology has advanced.

I just want to call it what it is though a streetable race car. As people have accepted this more people had to do the same to compete which has led to the change in definition of a street car.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 01:07 PM
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Money doesn't play into it IMO....either the car is or isn't a real street car.... regardless of budget.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Money doesn't play into it IMO....either the car is or isn't a real street car.... regardless of budget.
I agree...money plays into how people build their cars for sure though. What I’m trying to say is...people sacrifice streetability trying to keep costs down while trying to keep up or run faster at the track sometimes. Other times it is skill related like you mentioned. Money is kind of the “why” behind some of it, but budget doesn’t change the fact that it is or isn’t a true street car.
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
I agree...money plays into how people build their cars for sure though. What I’m trying to say is...people sacrifice streetability trying to keep costs down while trying to keep up or run faster at the track sometimes. Other times it is skill related like you mentioned. Money is kind of the “why” behind some of it, but budget doesn’t change the fact that it is or isn’t a true street car.
true that.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 06:05 AM
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The local 1/8th mile is having the biggest street car event of the year this weekend.

Most of the rules fit what we’ve mostly agreed upon here. It requires you to check into the track then take a short cruise and check in then return to the track. Last year they canceled the cruise requirement because it was too hot. Seems odd to me since the point would be proving you can street drive without over heating. Also turnout was lower then desired last year so this year they specifically said no mufflers required. I’m guessing the number of fender exit turbo cars are so high now they will see a much higher turnout this way.

I remember not long ago having mufflers was the number one requirement for street cars. A lot has changed.
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
The local 1/8th mile is having the biggest street car event of the year this weekend.

Most of the rules fit what we’ve mostly agreed upon here. It requires you to check into the track then take a short cruise and check in then return to the track. Last year they canceled the cruise requirement because it was too hot. Seems odd to me since the point would be proving you can street drive without over heating. Also turnout was lower then desired last year so this year they specifically said no mufflers required. I’m guessing the number of fender exit turbo cars are so high now they will see a much higher turnout this way.

I remember not long ago having mufflers was the number one requirement for street cars. A lot has changed.
That's weak...
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
The local 1/8th mile is having the biggest street car event of the year this weekend.

Most of the rules fit what we’ve mostly agreed upon here. It requires you to check into the track then take a short cruise and check in then return to the track. Last year they canceled the cruise requirement because it was too hot. Seems odd to me since the point would be proving you can street drive without over heating. Also turnout was lower then desired last year so this year they specifically said no mufflers required. I’m guessing the number of fender exit turbo cars are so high now they will see a much higher turnout this way.

I remember not long ago having mufflers was the number one requirement for street cars. A lot has changed.
Yeah, but mufflers are meant to quiet cars down. If a turbo car is just as quiet or quieter than a muffled car, why should it not be allowed? I mean, turbos basically are mufflers. If anything, a fender exit should not be allowed as it's illegal in most, if not all, states.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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Best street car? Any of the newer V-cars. 200mph capable, with Cadillac comfort. Passes emissions in every state. Full warranty. Full stereo.

If you want to build it, instead of buy it... grab a V1 or V2, add boost... enjoy. Bonus points if it's a Vagon, because fast station wagons are rad AF.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NEstyle
Yeah, but mufflers are meant to quiet cars down. If a turbo car is just as quiet or quieter than a muffled car, why should it not be allowed? I mean, turbos basically are mufflers. If anything, a fender exit should not be allowed as it's illegal in most, if not all, states.
You never heard of florida i can see?
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 09:18 AM
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Yeah, Florida doesn't seem to regulate emissions, incest, or firearms at all.
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Originally Posted by NEstyle
Yeah, but mufflers are meant to quiet cars down. If a turbo car is just as quiet or quieter than a muffled car, why should it not be allowed? I mean, turbos basically are mufflers. If anything, a fender exit should not be allowed as it's illegal in most, if not all, states.
A turbo car with open exhaust is in no way as quiet as a muffled car. Now a turbo car with mufflers is deadly, way quiet and nobody knows until its too late!

Originally Posted by ddnspider
That's weak...
Agree, typically a 30+ mile cruise and not being able to open hood before making a pass is associated with the "street car" class. If a car can't do that then its useless to me.

Originally Posted by BCNUL8R
The local 1/8th mile is having the biggest street car event of the year this weekend.

Most of the rules fit what we’ve mostly agreed upon here. It requires you to check into the track then take a short cruise and check in then return to the track. Last year they canceled the cruise requirement because it was too hot. Seems odd to me since the point would be proving you can street drive without over heating. Also turnout was lower then desired last year so this year they specifically said no mufflers required. I’m guessing the number of fender exit turbo cars are so high now they will see a much higher turnout this way.

I remember not long ago having mufflers was the number one requirement for street cars. A lot has changed.
Lame, people just arent trying hard enough. You can make 1200-1300hp through stock C6Z or C6 NPP mufflers. An overheating fender exit car is not a street car, period. Now you could rig up something that used the exhaust out the back for cruising and used the fender exit under boost would be kinda cool but I think most people don't want the weight associated with the full exhaust.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
Yeah, Florida doesn't seem to regulate emissions, incest, or firearms at all.
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Originally Posted by panda240ss
You never heard of florida i can see?
Just because its not enforced doesn't make it legal. Granted I ran fender exit in VA and while illegal nobody gave me any grief about it.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Just because its not enforced doesn't make it legal. Granted I ran fender exit in VA and while illegal nobody gave me any grief about it.
Vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1975 can’t exceed 83 decibels.thats the only exhaust law LOL.

ive driving no bumper no hood with hood exit no rear bumper never had an issue not even a single ticket lol.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
Just because its not enforced doesn't make it legal. Granted I ran fender exit in VA and while illegal nobody gave me any grief about it.
To be honest loud exhaust is never an issue here. Loud trucks with no mufflers at all running around every where. The idea that someone mentioned earlier about fender exit turbo cars being quiet is laughable though. If one of those is next to me the only way I know my car is running is by watching the tach.

I have friends with fender exit turbo cars so I’m not hating if those are the rules then I’ll still root for them. It’s just an example of how things have changed. I do have another friend though with the most streetable car in the class...full interior corvette, full exhaust, factory computer, etc making over 1200 rwhp. He’s a little out gunned but he can drive and 60’ it’s still irs and pulls the front tires a couple feet in the air with MT pro drag radials.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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to me. a street car has plates and is insured and can be driving for distance.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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What's the point of only saying it needs to have plates and insured when a car with no muffler or hood or bumper would pass an inspection upon new registration or the 83dB noise limit. Also, if the insurance company actually saw the car there's no way they would insure it. I'm all for modding and building what you want, but don't claim because it has plates and insurance its a real street car.
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Old Jun 11, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by panda240ss
to me. a street car has plates and is insured and can be driving for distance.
This race does require plates and registration etc as well as a short cruise. The rules are pretty good in my opinion the only rule I disagree with is the no mufflers required.

This is is a prepped race with instant green clocks off and water burnout only no personal prep. Most of these guys race no prep as well in small tire or drag radial where there are no requirements for streetability. I believe they put the no mufflers required in to let these guys in to increase the turnout.
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