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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 12:36 AM
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Hey guys new here been dealing with my car for last few years with different setups. Car is a 85 iroc 5.3 aluminum block, s475, Bosch 1000, dual fuel pumps, terminator x, th400 3500stall, Chinese 44mm wastegate, sloppy stage 2 cam and flow sheet metal intake. When out cruising or on dyno car is really sluggish to come
up on boost lazy from that 1200-3200 range. Once it lights it’s makes decent power . But is extremely laggy any ideas on what could be causing this?. Second setup and still same thing .
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:27 AM
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throw alot more timing at it and see if it peps up. No sustained WOT runs here - just testing your part throttle response. Intake isnt helping. Make sure engine is mechanically sound, wastegate is holding. After that maybe the converter.
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:58 AM
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Are you running any kind of boost controller? If it's not too much trouble. can you take your wastegate off and bench test it to see when the gate starts to crack open the valve and at what PSI? I'm just wondering if backpressure is causing the WG to open prematurely. What PSI spring is in your WG? Have you checked everywhere (hotside and coldside) for leaks?
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 07:00 AM
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Engine is now apart right now was mechanically sound. Fresh rebuild , 150-160 across board. Has flow intake 102 tb deff not a restriction. Timing has been bumped but isn’t helping, gate holds 18 psi and doesn’t crack or leak. Exhaust is 2.5 cross overs to turbo then 4 inch dump. Car makes killer power and wants way more timing up top but was limited to pump gas 91. Makes 620on 17 psi. No leaks on smoke test.
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Want boost at 1200RPM, not sure if serious. With a 3500 stall you don't have much load down low, floor it harder!
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Cam been degreed? That intake certainly isn’t helping.
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 10:03 AM
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I run almost the exact same setup,,same cam and 5.3 etc.I run the airwerks s475 and it spools very quickly for me.When I first put mine together it wouldnt spool very well because of the converter.I changed converters and its night and day now.I ran bbc before the ls and they didnt care would spool anything.The ls engines seem alot more finnicky and need matched up alot better
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 11:28 AM
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I run almost the exact same setup,,same cam and 5.3 etc.I run the airwerks s475 and it spools very quickly for me.When I first put mine together it wouldnt spool very well because of the converter.I changed converters and its night and day now.I ran bbc before the ls and they didnt care would spool anything.The ls engines seem alot more finnicky and need matched up alot better
what convertor you goto size wise I think that’s my issue. Intake has never been a issue since day one as it has been changed out more than once
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Sounds like something is off, my S484 on my 5.7 build 6 lbs. by 3,200 rpm without even trying.
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Originally Posted by The ******
Sounds like something is off, my S484 on my 5.7 build 6 lbs. by 3,200 rpm without even trying.
True, but he's talking much lower RPM:

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lazy from that 1200-3200 range.
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Originally Posted by Fiero350
Hey guys new here been dealing with my car for last few years with different setups. Car is a 85 iroc 5.3 aluminum block, s475, Bosch 1000, dual fuel pumps, terminator x, th400 3500stall, Chinese 44mm wastegate, sloppy stage 2 cam and flow sheet metal intake. When out cruising or on dyno car is really sluggish to come
up on boost lazy from that 1200-3200 range. Once it lights it’s makes decent power . But is extremely laggy any ideas on what could be causing this?. Second setup and still same thing .
Originally Posted by Fiero350
what convertor you goto size wise I think that’s my issue. Intake has never been a issue since day one as it has been changed out more than once
Im lost. Good luck.
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Fiero, what ICL is the cam installed at?
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 02:40 PM
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Fire ring in gate ? Tubine damaged from an earlier engine failure? Sorry if these are too obvious, don't think they were mentioned yet
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Originally Posted by SLOW SEDAN
True, but he's talking much lower RPM:
Oh for sure, not sure how you'd build boost in the converters stall range or why you'd want to for that matter.
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Originally Posted by GMCGreg
Fire ring in gate ? Tubine damaged from an earlier engine failure? Sorry if these are too obvious, don't think they were mentioned yet
turbo new and fire ring is In There
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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
Oh for sure, not sure how you'd build boost in the converters stall range or why you'd want to for that matter.
Reminds me of the time I first drove my uncle's high stall Firebird as a kid. There was ice on the road and I had never driven a car with a tach before. I mistook the tach for the speedometer and since I heard the engine revving up I thought it was slipping on the ice. You are not going to build much boost at part throttle and as someone has said, why would you want to. As far as feeling "laggy" below the stall speed? Who could have guessed that was going to happen or better yet what it even means?
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Originally Posted by joes1966
I run almost the exact same setup,,same cam and 5.3 etc.I run the airwerks s475 and it spools very quickly for me.When I first put mine together it wouldnt spool very well because of the converter.I changed converters and its night and day now.I ran bbc before the ls and they didnt care would spool anything.The ls engines seem alot more finnicky and need matched up alot better
i have a 9.5 inch conveter and it stalls at 4800 rpms on the brake
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Old Aug 4, 2021 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by joes1966
i have a 9.5 inch conveter and it stalls at 4800 rpms on the brake
just took my convertor out to trans shop b&m 20482. Think something has failed in it will be getting some
info when they cut it open today. Doesn’t feel like it’s hooking up , I have a video of the dyno pulls but can figure how to post it. So everyone can see what my issue is
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So you are wanting boost off idle?
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Originally Posted by Fiero350
just took my convertor out to trans shop b&m 20482. Think something has failed in it will be getting some
info when they cut it open today. Doesn’t feel like it’s hooking up , I have a video of the dyno pulls but can figure how to post it. So everyone can see what my issue is
Oh man, toss that B&M converter in the trash and get a PTC, Circle D, FTI or ATI ($$$).
For an auto turbo car the converter much like the cam is absolutely critical.
I'm running the Circle D LS Pro converter in mine and they've been great to work with, even pulled it back out to have it tweaked since it wasn't locking up on the top end (most likely because of the trans).
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