Final #'s 1560hp 1186ft lbs
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Thanks guys for all the well wishes!! Can't wait to get to work on Monday and try and find more power.
I think if we could have spun the engine to 7500 it might have touched the 1600 mark but the water in the dyno was boiling!! The new dyno is at our new shop now so that will not be a problem next time. The new dyno can handle 2000hp steady state and 2500hp on a sweep.
Again thanks for the kind words.... I got to go back to thinking of how to keep the engine together with a small N2O shot......hmmmmmmm
Kurt
I think if we could have spun the engine to 7500 it might have touched the 1600 mark but the water in the dyno was boiling!! The new dyno is at our new shop now so that will not be a problem next time. The new dyno can handle 2000hp steady state and 2500hp on a sweep.
Again thanks for the kind words.... I got to go back to thinking of how to keep the engine together with a small N2O shot......hmmmmmmm
Kurt
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Originally Posted by 427
.... I got to go back to thinking of how to keep the engine together with a small N2O shot......hmmmmmmm
Kurt
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Originally Posted by turbo'd stang
Several years ago when Job jr was racing, he had a 327 with a 100mm turbo, he ran a whole season on that motor, running low 8's,high 7's. Granted this is a Ford, but I think the same could be done with an LS1 motor. The 6.0l block is stout. It weighs the same, if not more than my 302 SVO block. It has some BEEF somewhere in it!
gm 4 life! 
Well, there goes my guess, I thought this was secretly yours Brian. Kurt Urban
Wow, you never cease to amaze me Kurt, you are the MAN.
Can't wait to get my engine back from you. I have my new "Ultimate Stage III heads" ready to go, now if only that damn turbo kit would get here.
Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Kurt UrbanWow, you never cease to amaze me Kurt, you are the MAN.
Can't wait to get my engine back from you. I have my new "Ultimate Stage III heads" ready to go, now if only that damn turbo kit would get here.
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Originally Posted by Billy the Great
here a lil makeshift graph i threw together. Kurt do you have data for any lower than this so we could get an idea of the curve as it spools. Also do u have a pictures of the header arrangement and possitioning of the turbo?
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3200 498 303 3.7
3300 504 316 4
3400 513 332 4.2
3500 525 350 4.6
3600 538 368 5
3700 554 390 5.6
3800 572 413 6
3900 589 437 6.6
4000 610 464 7.3
4100 632 493 8.2
4200 657 525 9
4300 681 557 9.8
4400 706 592 10.7
4500 739 634 11.8
4600 803 703 13.6
4700 853 763 15.3
4800 907 829 17.1
4900 967 903 18.7
5000 1004 956 19.6
Started the pulls at 3200.
Your graph looks great, thanks.
Kurt
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Thanks Brian,
Your engine should ship this week. I have all my valves for my new heads. I will probably send them with your shortblock.
Kurt Kurt Urban
Wow, you never cease to amaze me Kurt, you are the MAN.
Can't wait to get my engine back from you. I have my new "Ultimate Stage III heads" ready to go, now if only that damn turbo kit would get here.
Your engine should ship this week. I have all my valves for my new heads. I will probably send them with your shortblock.
Kurt
Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Kurt UrbanWow, you never cease to amaze me Kurt, you are the MAN.
Can't wait to get my engine back from you. I have my new "Ultimate Stage III heads" ready to go, now if only that damn turbo kit would get here.
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Originally Posted by EatRice
Any piictures of this motor? I am really interested in the sheet metal intake. I think I will give wheel to wheel a call on Monday. Web site seems to be down.
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Originally Posted by 427
I had a meeting in Ohio all day today. I will try and get some pics up Tuesday. The intake is a one off part. It is made per cubic inch and other engine and car info.
Kurt
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Very impressive Kurt. Very exciting the head gaskets lived through the whole process.
I just finished installing your short block in the car. I am using TEA heads which were recently completed. The flow numbers on the heads are quite impressive. Hope to update you soon with dyno numbers.
Originally Posted by 427
RPM TQ HP BOOST
3200 498 303 3.7
3300 504 316 4
3400 513 332 4.2
3500 525 350 4.6
3600 538 368 5
3700 554 390 5.6
3800 572 413 6
3900 589 437 6.6
4000 610 464 7.3
4100 632 493 8.2
4200 657 525 9
4300 681 557 9.8
4400 706 592 10.7
4500 739 634 11.8
4600 803 703 13.6
4700 853 763 15.3
4800 907 829 17.1
4900 967 903 18.7
5000 1004 956 19.6
Started the pulls at 3200.
Your graph looks great, thanks.
Kurt
3200 498 303 3.7
3300 504 316 4
3400 513 332 4.2
3500 525 350 4.6
3600 538 368 5
3700 554 390 5.6
3800 572 413 6
3900 589 437 6.6
4000 610 464 7.3
4100 632 493 8.2
4200 657 525 9
4300 681 557 9.8
4400 706 592 10.7
4500 739 634 11.8
4600 803 703 13.6
4700 853 763 15.3
4800 907 829 17.1
4900 967 903 18.7
5000 1004 956 19.6
Started the pulls at 3200.
Your graph looks great, thanks.
Kurt
thanks for the additional data i updated my graph. Cant wait to see some pics
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Originally Posted by 427
The dyno session is over and the head gaskets lived!!
Final peak tq was 1186@6500 24.6 psi
peak hp was 1560@7000 23.4 psi
My dyno was having trouble holding it on the higher boost settings.
made 31 pulls to get cal happy. There was 15 pulls that exceed 1400hp and gaskets lived.
Best guess on hp was from blackws6. He guessed 1420hp
Best guess on tq was from eviltwins. He guessed 1150ft lbs
Kurt
Final peak tq was 1186@6500 24.6 psi
peak hp was 1560@7000 23.4 psi
My dyno was having trouble holding it on the higher boost settings.
made 31 pulls to get cal happy. There was 15 pulls that exceed 1400hp and gaskets lived.
Best guess on hp was from blackws6. He guessed 1420hp
Best guess on tq was from eviltwins. He guessed 1150ft lbs
Kurt
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it does not have to be thicker that girdle is more than enough( I am an engineer, I made a complete engineering analysis,it is made out of 304 ss and it is as hard as a arp bolt(185000 ultimate strength), plus it fits the stock oil pan and windage tray, it will not move the oil pan down ( were you will run into clearance problem when you launch the car and it will come down and hit the oil pan) plus it aids to decrease windage , wich will increase horsepower.as far as it going into to oil pan rails, it is a 6 bolt main, once bolted on it is a part of the engine, period. it works it works well, and it will save a lot of motors.
Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
You know you just beat me to my post and answered my question... I showed the other one to my machinist.
He said "That is OK and better than nothing but ideally It should be thicker and also wider so you can tie it into the LS1 pan rail... We have a deep skirt and a structural oil pan... Lets make use of it. You should also machine the pan rail, girdle rail and your structural oil pan for dowels. They will run from the block rail thru the girdle and into the cast pan. The dowels will transfer the lateral and longitudinal load thru the parts. I'd also run two dowels on the backside of the each main caps thru the girdle this is to transfer the lateral and longitudinal forces to the girdle and get that load off the studs... Since it would be such a structural component at that point I'd treat the pan and girdle system like a deck plate.... In place during honing and torqued the same so we know its going to be true once assembled"
He said "That is OK and better than nothing but ideally It should be thicker and also wider so you can tie it into the LS1 pan rail... We have a deep skirt and a structural oil pan... Lets make use of it. You should also machine the pan rail, girdle rail and your structural oil pan for dowels. They will run from the block rail thru the girdle and into the cast pan. The dowels will transfer the lateral and longitudinal load thru the parts. I'd also run two dowels on the backside of the each main caps thru the girdle this is to transfer the lateral and longitudinal forces to the girdle and get that load off the studs... Since it would be such a structural component at that point I'd treat the pan and girdle system like a deck plate.... In place during honing and torqued the same so we know its going to be true once assembled"
Last edited by stage274; Jul 27, 2004 at 04:33 AM.