Mbs1994

Just looking for a quick yes or no doesnt even have to be a big debate. Found one for less than $300 shipped, emissions are required, I know it's a lot of work but I have seen people swear by it. I'd like to have a good lope but this won't do that but also had been looking at lpe but this could be a cheap alternative.
2000 firebird, t56, procharged. Seems all stock minus the tune and procharger. Have 317s I've been holding for once I decide on a cam so I can get proper springs, have a ls6 intake that would go at the same time. Will also be ordering LTs once this gets going so I can do one more tune and call it good for a while.

Part number on the cam is 12565308

Pro Stock John

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I wouldn't that's me.

CattleAc

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I run a 5308 LS6 cam in my 5.3. I really like it, but as you said no lope, and I've bought a couple of them for $75 bucks...$300 is too much. If you want a little lope. I'd kick a little more cash and get the one you want.

gametech

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I still have a brand new one of those in the tube unopened that I would get rid of for a hell of a lot less than $300. I had no idea people were trying to sell them for that much now.

The BallSS

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$300 for a Z06 cam, someone is taking you for a ride bud, it's not a collectable ffs.
For another $100 you could get a custom grind.

gnx7

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I have a used LS7 Z06 cam and a used GTO LS2 cam $60 each plus shipping

used LS2 Z06/GTO cam $60
12574519 204°/213° 0.520 in./0.521 in. 116 LSA

used LS7 C6 Z06 cam $60
12638426

• Duration @ .050" Lift( Deg): Intake: 211 / Exhaust: 230
• Maximum Lift (in) W/ 1.7 Rocker: Intake: .558 / Exhaust: .558
• Maximum Lift (in) W/ 1.8 Rocker: Intake: .593 / Exhaust: .588
• Lobe Centerline ( deg): 121

The BallSS

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Scoop up one of those cams from gnx7 and grab some BTR .660 drop in springs and you're set.

Mbs1994

with either of those cams I would need a new timing cover and relocate the cam sensor right? Could easily be wrong, ive read about cam swaps sporadically but right now I'm ready to pull the trigger on a set up.

Mbs1994

Sorry for delay, I can't stand when a OP just posts and ghosts. Life's been really busy but I appreciate all input. I want a cam in the very near future because I'm already adjusting to the car and want more. All the replies are appreciated.

The BallSS

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The FI cam from Brute speed which they say works for procharger and turbo applications is a nice piece.
I'm using it in my 99 Camaro SS with an S484 and rod/piston LS1 and it gets my vote, has very low valvetrain noise, nice, choppy idle but still drives nice.
My car is an auto car so a little different but maybe @Bob@BruteSpeed will chime in and lend his experience.

Mbs1994

Oooooh I looked up this cam and if its the one with the same profile as bobs former employee im so interested. Found some sound clips and it's a winner winner.

The BallSS

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It's got a really nice lope to it, I've got my idle set around 800-850rpm and it lopes pretty hard, turns a lot of heads.
Pick one up and some of the drop in springs mentioned previously and go to town.
If you have an air compressor, fab up or buy a hose to feed compressed air into the spark plug hole, get a cheap two valve spring compressor tool and get to work.
Take your time and go slow, fill the chamber with air, give the tops of the valves a tap with a hammer to loosen the retainers, install the tool and swap them out.
It's really quite easy, just takes time.

ryeguy2006a

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I'm running an LS6 Power Max PLUS cam from SDPC that has a 220/222 112 lsa, but uses .570" lift so you can run stock LS3 springs. I'm very happy with it and has a nice idle. My Camaro was running a 6.2 LSA and I had the 8715 Summit Ghost Cam. Had a great idle and made lots of power with the supercharger.

The BallSS

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I like the low lift stuff, less noise and easier on valve springs.
It really doesn't seem to make a big difference on FI street stuff from what I've seen.

Forcefed86

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The “chop” is mainly incomplete cyl filling at low rpm. Usually do to excessive of overlap at low speed. Which almost always blows a crappy emission reading. So I’d be careful with anything that is naturally “choppy” at idle if you want to pass emissions. (though there are a lot of ways to cheat sniffer tests as well)

If you have a decent ECU and/or a decent tuner… they can tune in a semi choppy sounding idle. I can make the stock cam sound like an aftermarket cam pretty easy on a Megasquirt or Holley. I haven’t ever played with HP tuners, but I bet the same could be done there.

Holdners new cam is pretty cheap (under $200) and will put up better numbers than the LS7/LS9 cam with an aggressive sound. But you’d have to do a trick or 2 to pass emissions I’d bet.

The BallSS

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Is anyone really sniff testing anymore these days?
My state has gone completely to OBD II scanning for codes only which I find funny because my state is run by a bunch of climate change cult retard libs so you'd think they'd want sniff testing to make sure my car isn't hurting the ozone or some crap (it totally is btw ).
I haven't bought tabs for any of my cars in years because the cops don't care, and tabs are crazy expensive but last time I did they confirmed that emissions testing had been discontinued.

Forcefed86

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No idea, just saw the “emissions required” note in the first post. I haven’t lived in a state that does emissions testing in the last 20 years.

The BallSS

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That was my point that I failed to make lol.
The OP might want to confirm whether his state even still requires sniff testing, maybe they don't?
It's not like Washington State sent out a notice, they just stopped doing it.

Mbs1994

Sorry didn't realize there had been more responses. I think I'm going to do the brute speed blower cam mentioned when I do get to it. I've had some other things come up that have halted this. I already have 317s that I've stripped down.

They do still do emissions where I am and we follow California regulations. I had just done emissions and they definitely sniff it.

I guess that's why it seems big lopey cams like a ms4 wont optimize FI then? If its overlapping then you are just pushing boost out. Wording of someone who doesn't fully understand like some but I think I have a general idea.

I've also been looking into tuners trying to find someone that is worth it.

The BallSS

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Not necessarily, but Procharger's may be more finicky than turbos when it comes to cams.
Any cam can be a turbo cam really, unless you're setting records it won't matter.
For me personally, I buy a cam made for the application because I want every bit of power.
The overlap is what is going to fail the sniff test, it allows unburned fuel into the exhaust so if you're getting sniffed, stay away from those cams.
I've known guys who have leaned their cars out to the point they can barely drive them in order to pass a sniff test back in the day.
I'm a big fan of Pat G. for remote tuning, he does excellent work and has yet to blow up any of my junk.
Really if you're going to be playing with LS stuff you should have an HP Tuners setup to make changes and data log.
If you have no interest in ever making changes, Pat G. can use EFI Live which costs a lot less than a full HP Tuners setup.