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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Default Why isn't a Boost-A-Pump or MSD more popular here?
I never see too many here at LS1Tech FI using the KB BAP much.

Any reason?
Having good results with it and a Racetronix setup.

Maybe 650rwhp with this setup?
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Not sure, I know a lot of Mustang guys use it and there are some LS1 Vette guys that us it also. I planned on looking into it when I do my Racetronix pump in my truck. If anything it will limit the likelyhood of dropping voltage when under WOT with music turned up. LOL
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I had one but went with two pumps eventually. It did work well tho
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MelloYellow
I never see too many here at LS1Tech FI using the KB BAP much.

Any reason?
Having good results with it and a Racetronix setup.

Looks like my 42# SVO's could support up to 675rwhp with this setup.
Thunder Racing and A&A sell many MSD and KB BAPs.
Only a small percentage of HP car owners are active and / or post on the forums.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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What do you suppose a single intank walbro, stock fuel lines/rails, BAP and 42lb injectors will support?

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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What do you suppose a single intank walbro, stock fuel lines/rails, BAP and 42lb injectors will support?

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The pump system with a FM FPR will support upwards of 700RWHP.
Injectors .... that depends on the motor BSFC and max RPM.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:05 PM
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What is a safe real world BSFC estimate for a SC Motor?

Is lower or higher BSFC better?
Which uses more again? Say .55 vs. .65 BSFC?

Thx.
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Higher BSFC will mean bigger injector for a given HP #.

I think people usually use .55 for FI but some people may vary that a bit. i guess depending on how much of a cushion you want, but you could try to do that with duty cycle also. I'm not a injector guru so maybe someone else could tell ya more or correct me
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I ussually have problems with 42's after 550rwhp on FI cars.

We run the Kenne Bell boost a pump on 2 cars with great results.
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Ran out of injector with the 42# SVO's today around 575rwhp @ 5500.

Swapping out to 60# Mototrons.

Racetronix + BAP still holding good so far.
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Ran out of injector with the 42# SVO's today around 575rwhp @ 5500.

Swapping out to 60# Mototrons.

Racetronix + BAP still holding good so far.
Are those 60's flow-matched?
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
Are those 60's flow-matched?

I was told they are...... one question.
Can you use the boost apump on any fuel pump??? LIke my external Bousch 420L??? How much would it help me???
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
Are those 60's flow-matched?
Don't think my set were flow matched.
Shipped overnight AM deliv from A&A.

Would be nice if more vendors carried the 60#'s Flow Matched.


Am a little wary of some injectors. Had some headaches with Delphi 50# tuning once. The 42# SVO's and Mototron 60#'s are supposed to be ez to tune, especially at idle and part throttle.
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Originally Posted by MelloYellow
Don't think my set were flow matched.
Shipped overnight AM deliv from A&A.

Would be nice if more vendors carried the 60#'s Flow Matched.


Am a little wary of some injectors. Had some headaches with Delphi 50# tuning once. The 42# SVO's and Mototron 60#'s are supposed to be ez to tune, especially at idle and part throttle.
Racetronix Siemens 57's are easy to tune and come flow-matched.
There are the same injectors used in ARE / Wade's 8s C5 a while back using the factory PCM. A very popular injector.
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What is the Racetronix Single Pump Flow Rating again? (for running calculations).

How would the flow numbers look with the BAP running?

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What is the Racetronix Single Pump Flow Rating again? (for running calculations).

How would the flow numbers look with the BAP running?

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The pump spec is quoted in our ad:
http://www.racetronix.com/RX-F99-FPKG-2.html

Depending on the BAP voltage you can add 20-25% to the rating.
Keep in mind this is on a test fixture and does not factor in the car's plumbing restrictions. This is why we quote apx. HP support #'s.
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Originally Posted by Racetronix
The pump spec is quoted in our ad:
http://www.racetronix.com/RX-F99-FPKG-2.html

Depending on the BAP voltage you can add 20-25% to the rating.
Keep in mind this is on a test fixture and does not factor in the car's plumbing restrictions. This is why we quote apx. HP support #'s.
Is the PnP deal available yet?

The ad says "MSRP" is around $280. So does this suggest it can be had for less $$$ ? If so, who carries your product?

Is your pump just an anodized Walbro or is it actually a different (read: better) pump?

Thanks!

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Is the PnP deal available yet?

The ad says "MSRP" is around $280. So does this suggest it can be had for less $$$ ? If so, who carries your product?

Is your pump just an anodized Walbro or is it actually a different (read: better) pump?

Thanks!

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As the ad states it is a custom setup.
A sale price of $249.99 is in place for 30 days.
The systems started shipping July 31/04.
More Performance and Thunder Racing should have them in stock any day now.
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I was told they are...... one question.
Can you use the boost apump on any fuel pump??? LIke my external Bousch 420L??? How much would it help me???
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Any one have any info on my question???
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Mello . . . so you're saying you ran out of pump @ 575 WITH or WITHOUT the BAP? If with, then you only gained 25rwhp by using it??

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