More Lame results from STS turbo kit!!!
10-22-2004, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Unusual T/A
That troll ran a 11.2@118 stock internals. You run what?LMFAO
I don't have to prove my car is fast, its fast enough for me and i'm satisfied with that. 11.2 at 118 huh so what.
10-22-2004, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by White_Hawk
I agree with you about the bang for your buck concept of the STS. However, this guy also has an Agostino 408. That alone should get him into the low 11's. A local guy here in Detroit ran 11.5x on a 382 with stage one heads and an mti cam on DR's with stock 'verter.
For god's sake, that ARE shortblock cost $7900(according to their website)! That means that he has a $12,000 combo right there. So Although I don't agree with his presentation, V6Bird has a point, albeit poorly delivered. He could have brought his car to MTI, and picked it up with a 500 rwhp 427 package for that.
-Geoff
For god's sake, that ARE shortblock cost $7900(according to their website)! That means that he has a $12,000 combo right there. So Although I don't agree with his presentation, V6Bird has a point, albeit poorly delivered. He could have brought his car to MTI, and picked it up with a 500 rwhp 427 package for that.
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10-22-2004, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ravenous T\A
Well after KLRWS6's tune,all he would have to do is run him more than 5 times in a row, by that time V6Bird's bottle would run out
To me there is no reason for anyone to crack on anybody's car unless they are just lying about there set-up, and not make a STS bashing post like Mike tried(V6bird) to do. STS system sounds great IMO
To me there is no reason for anyone to crack on anybody's car unless they are just lying about there set-up, and not make a STS bashing post like Mike tried(V6bird) to do. STS system sounds great IMO
Either way its 5 more kills on my belt and and FAT 0 for himMike
10-22-2004, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Guys don' concentrate on ET's. ET's are more influenced by traction and gearing. The HP that the kit is making will be in the mph. With that being said...it looks like the car is making around 420-440rwhp, which is nothing to sneeze at.
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10-22-2004, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by af_187
because he runs fast on the track doesn't mean he isn't a jackass.
Everyone please just ignore him. He has no friends leave the poor soul alone
Everyone please just ignore him. He has no friends leave the poor soul alone
10-22-2004, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KLRWS6
White hawk your correct if i would have purchased the motor brand new but i got it for $4000.Its still alot of money but i had to jump on that deal. Hopefully next week Sean will get me in next week with a tune and some dyno numbers. We can talk smack all day long, but the only thing that will prove anything is numbers and times.
Mike
10-22-2004, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Ah Chu! Bless you...408's should make that NA. 420-440rwhp is what stock bottom end heads/cam combos make!
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**** your thick, 350-380 at best, esp untuned as well
10-22-2004, 12:23 PM
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So, basically the car was not setup for the track, running a stock converter, and launching off idle? Well, maybe his e.t. wasn't impressive but what did you expect? Given the proper setup I'm sure the times would be great. I'm not a fan of the STS kit either but I don't bash it like a troll just because I don't like it. If it takes longer to spool up so what. Don't buy it if you don't like it. Some people want to make good power for a good price. Just a question: Why start **** over the internet?
10-22-2004, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Ah Chu! Bless you...408's should make that NA. 420-440rwhp is what stock bottom end heads/cam combos make!
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10-22-2004, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-liter-eater
not with stock heads there genius **** your thick, 350-380 at best, esp untuned as well
**** your thick, 350-380 at best, esp untuned as well
Originally Posted by RealQuick
You seem to misunderstand something here. Adding cubes alone doesnt net that much in hp, but it will pick up a decent amount of torque. You seem to be ignoring the fact that his 408 has stock untouched, unported heads. Thats a big bottleneck. So saying he heas a 408 with stock heads is like him having a stock 346 with stock heads, except he should see 30rwtq or so more.
Originally Posted by WS-Sick
So, basically the car was not setup for the track, running a stock converter, and launching off idle? Well, maybe his e.t. wasn't impressive but what did you expect? Given the proper setup I'm sure the times would be great. I'm not a fan of the STS kit either but I don't bash it like a troll just because I don't like it. If it takes longer to spool up so what. Don't buy it if you don't like it. Some people want to make good power for a good price. Just a question: Why start **** over the internet?
Mike
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10-22-2004, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
You just said that adding cubes doenst net more power, but then you stated he should be making about 30rwhp then a stock headed cam only 346 setup. Im confused. Maybe I did misunderstand something.
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rwtq = rear wheel torque
10-22-2004, 01:06 PM
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guys its his first trip to the track untuned and he went almost 100mph in the 1/8th.
Converter, slicks, more boost and tuning and I bet he'll go close to 105+ mph in the 1/8th and 130+ in the 1/4. If the tranny can hold that is
Converter, slicks, more boost and tuning and I bet he'll go close to 105+ mph in the 1/8th and 130+ in the 1/4. If the tranny can hold that is
10-22-2004, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
No not really! Cam only cars are making 430rwhp on STOCK heads. SPlain that good buddy!
You just said that adding cubes doenst net more power, but then you stated he should be making about 30rwhp then a stock headed cam only 346 setup. Im confused. Maybe I did misunderstand something. But torque is what moves a car, and exhaust velocity aids in spooling a turbo. You kill exhaust velocity in a few ways...lenght of plumbing to the turbo and size of tubing, etc. Maybe someone could explain to me, since im a troll, if I am correct in my theory.
Mike
You just said that adding cubes doenst net more power, but then you stated he should be making about 30rwhp then a stock headed cam only 346 setup. Im confused. Maybe I did misunderstand something. But torque is what moves a car, and exhaust velocity aids in spooling a turbo. You kill exhaust velocity in a few ways...lenght of plumbing to the turbo and size of tubing, etc. Maybe someone could explain to me, since im a troll, if I am correct in my theory.
Mike
10-22-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KLRWS6
White hawk your correct if i would have purchased the motor brand new but i got it for $4000.Its still alot of money but i had to jump on that deal. Hopefully next week Sean will get me in next week with a tune and some dyno numbers. We can talk smack all day long, but the only thing that will prove anything is numbers and times.
This is a broken record on STS kits. Great dyno numbers, slow track times. I'll accept that I was wrong initially and the STS is a decent kit for a mostly stock car, but I think a lot of people have to come to terms that it is rather ineffective at going really fast at the track.
-Geoff
10-22-2004, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
What does he need tires for???? You really think he was spinning on those 60 foots??? You gotta build boost down low to even spin the tires...That he was not doing!!!!
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10-22-2004, 01:19 PM
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Hmm hundreds of TREX an G5x3 cars... I have seen 1 of each on three dyno's both pulled over 420, one on stock heads. No tricks. Isn't this thread about turbo's anyway and not bashing sponsors... 
PS the auto car pulled 431 and 445 on two separate dynos. If opening a cutout is a dyno trick then I guess that musta been it...
PS the auto car pulled 431 and 445 on two separate dynos. If opening a cutout is a dyno trick then I guess that musta been it...
10-22-2004, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lilone
Hmm hundreds of TREX an G5x3 cars... I have seen 1 of each on three dyno's both pulled over 420, one on stock heads. No tricks. Isn't this thread about turbo's anyway and not bashing sponsors...
PS the auto car pulled 431 and 445 on two separate dynos. If opening a cutout is a dyno trick then I guess that musta been it...
PS the auto car pulled 431 and 445 on two separate dynos. If opening a cutout is a dyno trick then I guess that musta been it...
10-22-2004, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lilone
Hmm hundreds of TREX an G5x3 cars... I have seen 1 of each on three dyno's both pulled over 420, one on stock heads. No tricks. Isn't this thread about turbo's anyway and not bashing sponsors...
PS the auto car pulled 431 and 445 on two separate dynos. If opening a cutout is a dyno trick then I guess that musta been it...
PS the auto car pulled 431 and 445 on two separate dynos. If opening a cutout is a dyno trick then I guess that musta been it...
Yep some higher then that on full exaust (true duals)
10-22-2004, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 5-liter-eater
I have worked on and dynoed 100's of cars, the mighty gx53 and trex as well, the best they ever have done on a REAL dyno with no tricks is about 404 380 tq and there power curves absolutely suck. And thats m6 cars as well. Another dyno warrior believeing all the sponsor bullshit claims. Wheres your dyno, I wanna put down 750 next week.
Mike
10-22-2004, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chupa
This is possibly the stupidest comment I have EVER read on this board. You can spin the tires without ANY boost, or any mods at all, for that matter.
Pay attention,
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Mike