STS time-8 psi-6 SPEED
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STS time-8 psi-6 SPEED Okay, this was my first trip to the track with my current setup, ran with Mickey T drag radials:
60' 1.945
1/4 12.265
mph 116.61
And I had a ton of wheel spin of the line. I think I needed to warm up the Mickey T's a little bit more. Unfortunately, I only got one run tonight, but it's a step in the right direction. And this is a 6 speed, no auto to load the motor on. I think I can get this thing to hit hi 11's as it sits. Just need some more seat time!
60' 1.945
1/4 12.265
mph 116.61
And I had a ton of wheel spin of the line. I think I needed to warm up the Mickey T's a little bit more. Unfortunately, I only got one run tonight, but it's a step in the right direction. And this is a 6 speed, no auto to load the motor on. I think I can get this thing to hit hi 11's as it sits. Just need some more seat time!
Ummm it says you have a two step to lauch with so not sure what you mean about auto..autos use stall converters to launch..manuals use two step like you have. It should work good. I would think a way better 60ft is possible with those tires. Also think mid low 11s should be doable and also think your car needs tuning or something. Is your car dyno rwhp because that much rwhp would be 10s I would think. Even you mph seems low for 8psi.
Course these are just observations from lurking on this board mostly.My turbo experience is from my turbo awd dsms. But hope to turbo my 99 ta shortly.
Course these are just observations from lurking on this board mostly.My turbo experience is from my turbo awd dsms. But hope to turbo my 99 ta shortly.
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The reason I was mentioning the 6 speed vs. auto thing is because all of the good times I have seen so far have been with autos. I do think I can get well into the 11's with this setup. It is gonna take more practice, and the car does need some more tuning. Those dyno #'s are rwhp. I don't think it's got 10's in it, but I think 11's are coming soon.
I am definitely excited with the progress...before the 2 step and tires I couldn't get this thing to launch at all. I kept pulling 2.4x 60's. What kind of 60' do you think I would need to pull to get the 11's?
I am definitely excited with the progress...before the 2 step and tires I couldn't get this thing to launch at all. I kept pulling 2.4x 60's. What kind of 60' do you think I would need to pull to get the 11's?
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I agree as well. I was just sharing the progress. By no means do I think this is the best time, nor do I feel it's the fastest this car is going to run. I just need to get a bit more tuning done, and a lot more practice (first time I've owned a car with almost 500 rwhp). But, I'll be sure the next time I post some times, they'll be in the 11's. 
Your car is still running decent and you should easily be in 11s with a bit better 60 mabye 1.9 or 1.8. Your mph is low though unless you are at very high altitude. Buddies
400 rwhp heads/cam/header car can do 116mph and he gets around 12.2 with 2.18 60fts in his SS at 1900 feet altitude . With extra 100 hp your mph should be well past 120. Not sure whats happening up top.
Guess you just have sorting out to do..did you change tuning much since the dyno..are you pig rich now up top?
Anyway I would still be very pleased to have your setup and sure there is lots of room for improvement.
Enjoy your toy!!
400 rwhp heads/cam/header car can do 116mph and he gets around 12.2 with 2.18 60fts in his SS at 1900 feet altitude . With extra 100 hp your mph should be well past 120. Not sure whats happening up top.
Guess you just have sorting out to do..did you change tuning much since the dyno..are you pig rich now up top?
Anyway I would still be very pleased to have your setup and sure there is lots of room for improvement.
Enjoy your toy!!
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Thanks man. I noticed on the dyno graph that something is happening above 5k. I have to play with the tuning to see if it's there, or valve float. When hp peaked, it fell off pretty hard. The other possibility is too small of a turbo. I'm still learning as I go, but I'm sure we'll get this figured out eventually!!
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Due to my lack of experience, I will never rule out driver error!! Although, I do think something is going on in the higher rpm range. And like I mentioned earlier, there was quite a bit of wheel spin. I think if I would have hooked a little better, I would have broke into the 11's. Then with some tuning (or valve springs), hopefully low 11's.
And, even though I have the 2 step, I only launched the car at about 2 psi. Again, if I had more than one run I could have adjusted that as well. What was weird about that is I had tried the 2 step earlier, and at the same setting I hit 6 psi. This time only 2??? So I am also going to check to see if I'm bleeding off boost anywhere.
And, even though I have the 2 step, I only launched the car at about 2 psi. Again, if I had more than one run I could have adjusted that as well. What was weird about that is I had tried the 2 step earlier, and at the same setting I hit 6 psi. This time only 2??? So I am also going to check to see if I'm bleeding off boost anywhere.
I dunno... even granny shifting that thing you should go 11s with that power. Like someone already mentioned I went VERY similar numbers with 399rwhp. 1.9 60' doesnt lead me to believe you were spinning that bad, ya know?
Get the bugs worked out and you should have a very solid 11 sec car.
Get the bugs worked out and you should have a very solid 11 sec car.
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Something to think about here guys, I know this is not a GN but I have seen many fast GN's spin AFTER the 60' mark. These turbo cars are not really going to get into full boost with a manual until smoewhere tward the 60' or after since they can not load the motor. I would be interested to see the 330' time as this will shed some light here...
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Originally Posted by Race-Prep
Something to think about here guys, I know this is not a GN but I have seen many fast GN's spin AFTER the 60' mark. These turbo cars are not really going to get into full boost with a manual until smoewhere tward the 60' or after since they can not load the motor. I would be interested to see the 330' time as this will shed some light here...
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I agree...warm em up more...cant get em too hot can ya???
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Well, you really need something to compare to, like a good N/A run or someone who is doing what you WANT to do but compare the 330 like you compare the 60' just the same. You see, your car could be starting to spin after the 60' mark when you reach full boost.
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Thanks for the help guys. I was looking at my dyno graph today with a friend that knows a lot more than me. And we identified a couple of things that could be issues. It does look like there is some valve float above 5k, the hp falls off pretty hard. And, compared to other STS cars, full boost seems to be a little bit later. I figure as the car sits, hi 11's are possible, and fixing these minor issues I should be able to hit low 11's.
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Originally Posted by NYSS Guy
Thanks for the help guys. I was looking at my dyno graph today with a friend that knows a lot more than me. And we identified a couple of things that could be issues. It does look like there is some valve float above 5k, the hp falls off pretty hard. And, compared to other STS cars, full boost seems to be a little bit later. I figure as the car sits, hi 11's are possible, and fixing these minor issues I should be able to hit low 11's.
I know I'm an A4, but here's my numbers:
361hp/412tq thats 114 hp and 83 ft/lbs less than you.....1.639- 60ft., 4.796- 330ft. to an 11.90@112mph on the same M/T drag radials you are running. 18psi and a *decent* burnout. Full weight. Something is def. wrong.
361hp/412tq thats 114 hp and 83 ft/lbs less than you.....1.639- 60ft., 4.796- 330ft. to an 11.90@112mph on the same M/T drag radials you are running. 18psi and a *decent* burnout. Full weight. Something is def. wrong.
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