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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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i need a rundown on parts needed and where i can get them from. i'll be using my washer fluid reservoir as the tank.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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UP, i'd like to see a parts list too if anyone has a link
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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anybody come on
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Added to this query.....

How much do you guys generally inject ?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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here's a great link for you guys. cheers

http://www.dawesdevices.com/water.html

EDIT: oops, saw meth, thought water... damn ADD

I'll leave it here anyways though
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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thats what i was looking for thanks
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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thats what i was looking for thanks
haha, cool glad I actually helped. That guide is what I'm using to make mine
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Good link (very detailed)
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www.coolingmist.com has a bunch of parts for the DIY'er too. I think I'll just end up buying the 150 psi dual nozzle kit from this place.
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 01:06 AM
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This is the kit I used!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

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http://www.aquastealth.com/index.asp...S&Category=212

Same kit, different prices!

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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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That is pimp. Anyone wanna buy a nitrous kit so I can get this instead?
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sweet thanks
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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i think i'm going with this one the kit
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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I've been sorting out the details for my methanol injection as well. One question is how do you want to control it? The less expensive approach is to use a single pressure activated switch. You hit xPSI boost, and the pump turns on. The flow is at whatever rate your pressure/nozzle provides.

A more sophisticated approach is to use have a boost sensor that turns it on at whatever boost, but starts slow and ramps up the pump output as boost ramps up.

From what I've found, the progressive controllers include:

Snow Performance, which uses a vacuum/pressure line to the controller: http://www.snowperformance.net/prodd...p?prod=auto030

Alky Control, which scales the pump output off of a 2 or 3 bar MAP sensor: http://www.alkycontrol.com/

Devil's Own, which uses a microprocessor reading from a MAP sensor: http://devilsownonline.com/cart/prod...f00ae1f43fade4

For LS1's, I have heard of all different systems being used. Whether or not you will actually benefit from a progressive system, I don't know. I AM going to use one, and will post a review on this board and LS1GTO.com when everything is operational.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Good prices on those ebay kits. I think those pumps retail around $120-130.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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i'm going to try it out first with the pressure activated switch and see what happens. then i'll try getting a controller, most likely it will be the snow controller.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MTBDOC
I've been sorting out the details for my methanol injection as well. One question is how do you want to control it? The less expensive approach is to use a single pressure activated switch. You hit xPSI boost, and the pump turns on. The flow is at whatever rate your pressure/nozzle provides.

A more sophisticated approach is to use have a boost sensor that turns it on at whatever boost, but starts slow and ramps up the pump output as boost ramps up.

From what I've found, the progressive controllers include:

Snow Performance, which uses a vacuum/pressure line to the controller: http://www.snowperformance.net/prodd...p?prod=auto030

Alky Control, which scales the pump output off of a 2 or 3 bar MAP sensor: http://www.alkycontrol.com/

Devil's Own, which uses a microprocessor reading from a MAP sensor: http://devilsownonline.com/cart/prod...f00ae1f43fade4

For LS1's, I have heard of all different systems being used. Whether or not you will actually benefit from a progressive system, I don't know. I AM going to use one, and will post a review on this board and LS1GTO.com when everything is operational.

What would appear to be the benefit is, since you need more at peak boost than initial operation, and on/off setup would have to be a little fatter than neccessary at first.... Forgetting everything else, you'll use less and have to fill less often. That's a benefit that would make it worth the $$.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frost
What would appear to be the benefit is, since you need more at peak boost than initial operation, and on/off setup would have to be a little fatter than neccessary at first.... Forgetting everything else, you'll use less and have to fill less often. That's a benefit that would make it worth the $$.
You misunderstood me...I fully appreciate the theoretical reason for a progressive controller (and that's why I'm going to use one!) but in a real-world setting, I don't specifically know whether it makes any difference. And you can also use two static pressure switches, one set at 2 psi (for example) and a 2nd at 6 psi...two lines + two nozzles => 2 stage methanol/water injection.

From discussing this with others, it is probably more of a real issue at HIGH boost applications, such as little 4 cyl OHC engines running 20+ psi.

The microprocessor unit that "devil's own" is using is VERY small, which makes it quite attractive. Here is a picture of one (without the laser-cut faceplate):


Looks small enough to mount in the extra space in my GTO headunit faceplate (got rid of the stock double din piece of crap!) Very nice design!
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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so it's a 50/50 mix then?where can i get it?
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