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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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will the supercharger on the gtp and ssei fit a 3.8 v-6 in an f-body. he reason i ask is that i heard the the gtp and ssei motors were different something like they had a deeper v to them. if it wont fit who makes a good roots type blower for the 3.8 in an f-body
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:22 AM
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I know it won't, but I don't know who makes a roots type for your car... sorry man... but someone will be replying shortly, it's LS1tech.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 01:55 AM
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SSEI and GTP both use the L67 with Eaton M90... same motors. I'm sure you could make a L67 work with a different blower. I believe the aussies have a L67 motor that is RWD and a top mounted M90 blower... the casing is different and moved the TB to correct position where it would work, almost makes a u turn into the rear of the M90.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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www.firebirdv6com has had many threads on this.

I actually saw a mule GM car with that setup in a 93-97 Firebird body, was pretty cool. It ran a ram air hood to clear the front assembly.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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The only problem would be that the throttle body side would be burried in your fire wall. I have seen and mp90 that the throttle body was like that of the 2003 cobra but for a 3.8. I'm not sure who made it but that is what you need.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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what if i got a mp 90 direct from eaton. would that work. and what is the difference between a roots type blower and a screw type blower i though they were the same.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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why not just get a V8?
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Originally Posted by RaRe99SS
why not just get a V8?
why not have something different?

I'd love to see a blown v6 that isnt an import battle some v8s.
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Originally Posted by spy2520
why not have something different?

I'd love to see a blown v6 that isnt an import battle some v8s.
My old 96 3.8 was blowned

http://members.***.net/blownv6/
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RaRe99SS
why not just get a V8?
you want to buy the motor and all the **** to do the swap. bc its a lot cheaper to get a blower then do a v-8 swap on a v-6 f-body
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how much hp would a v6 have with a supercharger??
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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I actually considered an FI 3800 V6 setup for my project because I could get the 3800 and 4L60E for almost free by buying and parting out a wrecked F-Body... I'm curious what kind of power you can make with one.

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you want to buy the motor and all the **** to do the swap. bc its a lot cheaper to get a blower then do a v-8 swap on a v-6 f-body
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Guess you missed my link on my 96 Blown V6

RWHP 253.7 @ 5200
Torque: 280.2 ft.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by steeltoe
will the supercharger on the gtp and ssei fit a 3.8 v-6 in an f-body. he reason i ask is that i heard the the gtp and ssei motors were different something like they had a deeper v to them. if it wont fit who makes a good roots type blower for the 3.8 in an f-body
http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ead.php?t=6620

http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ead.php?t=5805

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If you think about the cost/benefit of trying to put an M90 on an Fbody L36, it doesn't make sense when you consider the centrifugal supercharger options or turbo.
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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i got another question what is the difference between the series 2 3.8 and the series 3 3.8. and i figure out the hood and airbox location issue. well at least for the 96-97 3.8 the 3in ss that vfn or a ZL-1 hood or ultra Z hood. the airbox for the 96-97 ss was on top of the motor and pretty close to the firewall. i could pipe it using unversal exhasut that is sold at advance or napa

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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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www.3800performance.com
-CarTuning turbo kit

www.zzperformance.com
-they have CSC's, and you could talk to Stattama about turbos... not sure if the csc's could be adapted to the longitudinally mounted setup (RWD) though.
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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there is a rwd s/c 3.8 holden car so now there is the clearance issue
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FastKat
I actually considered an FI 3800 V6 setup for my project because I could get the 3800 and 4L60E for almost free by buying and parting out a wrecked F-Body... I'm curious what kind of power you can make with one.

not trying to promote or anything, but taken from tiago's FFF site:



3.8L Turbo Kit

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@ 7 psi - 294 rwhp 360 rwtq

@ 13 psi - 336 rwhp 399 rwtq

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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Unfortunately, the 3.8L in the F-body versus the 3.8L in the Grand Prix / Bonneville have some significant differences not simply in terms of mounting in the car, but overall upper engine design. The upper and lower intake manifolds are totally different. The fact of the matter is that a Roots-style blower just won't clear the cowl of an F-body... that's a big part of why you really don't see those types of blowers for F-bodies, but they're very popular with the Truck/GTO crowd.

If you've got to go FI, I'm sure that if you talk to ZZP they'd work with you. I've bought several products from ZZP for my Grand Prix, and they've been nothing but great. If you've got the time and money, I'm sure that if you talk to Zoomer, he'll work something out for you. Might want to check out ClubGP.com for more research.
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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to sum it up, it is possible to do it, but not worth the trouble or gain. to qoute: speed is an expensive hobby, how fast do you want to spend.
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