Alright so I'm looking in to turbos, I've done a lot of reading on this site. But mostly its specific questions I find per turbo. So this post seemed a bit neccessary, sorry if I overlooked something. Anyway,I've made up my mind on a turbo over sc. But now obviously im faced with a handful of brands and reviews on each. I've narrowed it down to Phamspeed, STS, Redline, and at the end of the list is the Eliminator kits from Speed Inc. but each seems a bit expensive. (the eliminator kits)

I'll probably go with a large single unit, looking for around 550-650hp. Possibly have the set up to handle more for down the road and just run a lower boost. Obviously other upgrades will be needed to compensate for that kind of power. Note: This is a daily driver as well. Although by the time this kit goes on that should no longer be the case. But it's still a street car.

Now my 5 questions:

1) Which company do you suggest? Pros and cons?
(and whats your take on the rear mount sts makes?)

2) I dont want to go hacking up my front end for a FMIC and I'm not a huge fan of the firebirdevolution front end either. Is it possible to use the brake ducts for some sort of dual small FMIC system? Comments? Suggestions?

3) What type of transmission work would be needed to compensate for this type of power? I know very little with trannys. (I'll be upgrading to a Textralia cltuch very soon, and hydraulics, due to recent problems)

4) What brand boost electronics do you all recommend? Is there a certain company that makes a better boost controller for inside the car than others? Or is that sort of company specific?

5) And finally. Might anyone know of a tuner/shop that could handle a project like this in the NJ area? And what installation/tuning would cost roughly?

Thanks

 

I have a kit thats perfect for you. Rear mount. T70, FMIC, ect. Easially make good power, kit comes complete..check it out in the for sale section

 

Yeah, im starting to steer away from the rear mount. Clearance will be an issue when i drop it, along with water and such. I'm good. And actually, the evolution front body kit is starting to grow on me. I need to do some research on that.

Anyway, anybody want to chime in?

 

im making my own kit and im in the same boat as you(same state too lol). Im looking for 500rwhp. I asked what turbo would get the job done and a t60 or t67 would be fine which run around 1k or less. Checking out local muffler shops to bend up the pipes for the install(this will be a front mount like the phamspeed kit). Will then need a wastegate and blow off valve,cost around 600 for both. So im at 1,600 or so for turbo,blow off valve and waste gate. Havent gotten a price for the bent pipes yet. Looking to make a base system that will run around 400-425rwhp to start with than later on get the bigger injectors and intercooler to complete the system for 500rwhp than im done, well atlest thats what i think right now lol.... If you want a complete system phamspeed/ground zero kit would get you the hp you want and cost less than other kits..

 

nice. good luck. keep me updated when u find a good shop!

 

1) Which company do you suggest? Pros and cons?

That is really up to you. Everyone has their own bias. As long as there are exhaust gases getting to the turbo and from there getting to the engine your going to make power.

2) I dont want to go hacking up my front end for a FMIC and I'm not a huge fan of the firebirdevolution front end either.

Not sure which, if any, kits require actual modification to the nose of the car, but if you have a FMIC in the nose you will have to remove the styraphome (sp?) bumper support in there. Only kit that doesn't require that is the TTi Street kit, which runs a smaller FMIC infront of the radiator.

3) What type of transmission work would be needed to compensate for this type of power? I know very little with trannys.

Built. FI cars really are no different from other big number cars, just get a beefy trans.

4) What brand boost electronics do you all recommend?

Seems like the eboost and eboost2 are really popular, but I just run a mbc.

5) And finally. Might anyone know of a tuner/shop that could handle a project like this in the NJ area?

Not familiar with the NJ area.

 

thanks. much appreciated. gotta do a little research in to the transmission work. just gonna keep learnin as much as i can. thanks again.

 

Keep reading bud, you'll eventually start seeing trends that you like and dislike. Speed Inc does excellent work, I've seen it firsthand. Phamspeed "GroundZeroMotorsports" makes a budget kit that would support 500-550 pretty easily I would imagine. They offer it without an intercooler aswell. That would help with the idea of you not having to put a frontmount up there and cutting stuff up. If you decide later on that you wouldn't mind a frontmount go ahead and get one. It's the best solution and you'd have it down the road incase you decided to upgrade and turn the boost up. You never want to work your way into a corner. Always leave options open. You'll end up regretting you spent the money if you don't play the game right. Best of luck with whatever you decide.

 

Thanks dude. Yeah I'm a little confused with the phamspeed ground zero relation... source work out from one another or what? Im on groundzeros site now actually. Anyway, the more I read, the more it seems I may go with a FMIC and possibly the firebird evolution bumper. lol It's growin on me really fast. But, first, I gotta find a system and start evaluating how much this is all going to cost. From what im reading, a t-56 maxes out at about 550 and id really like to break in to the 600 area to keep me happy for a short while. lol. What trannys are most of you running with this kind of power?

Thanks again Armageddon.

 

I run a stock T56, for how long... who knows. I run 2.2 60' foots though thats probably the only reason why it's not in TREMEC heaven yet. There are a lot of options out there, if your tranny explodes, buy a high performance rebuild kit for it and take it to a reputable shop. Run a 70trim turbo if you wanna stick around 600rwhp, 76trim if you want 700+.

 

lol yeah it probably takes a beating. but hey if it aint broken dont fix it right? lol ya after a certain point i think it goes without saying ill need to do somethin to strengthen the tranny.

but yeah... i was checking out 99SS-T's post from a couple months back...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/339836-phamspeed-dyno-results.html

he was running the phamspeed kit with a T76 i believe and rounding the 600 mark.
im assuming thats because he was on stock internals. now id be running the same for a while it seems. so would that be the way to go? and just run a low boost until i do heads/cam forged interals all that jazz. lol im tryin 2 actually know what im talkin about so feel free to correct me if i dont make sense.

and thats good, i could live with 500+rhwp until i could take care of the internals and tranny. but 6-700 would be a good goal for next fall. lol ill def need to upgrade from the stock rear tho. i was thinkin a strange 9. gotta do some research. thanks again for your help.

oh quick question too, i just picked up qtp lt's and therye still in the box w/ qtec cutout. is it all worthless now? lol is there a way to maintain that ***** out sound with this turbo kit?

 

I'm not sure what you mean by ***** out sound, but as far as those headers go, go ahead and sell them while they're in the box. Get your money back for them. Grab a Phamspeed kit with a 76trim turbo. Get a 12bolt rear and an upgraded driveshaft while your at it. I don't think a 9in is Necessary for you honestly, it weighs a lot more too. Plan on making high 5's with that setup until you build your motor. As far as keeping the car tame sounding, it's plenty easy. Just grab a couple dynomax highflow bullet mufflers and slap them on there. There is a mustang around here that runs 8's and you can barely hear it run. I asked him what type mufflers he was running and he told me some dynomax 3" bullets. Keep asking questions as you think of them. Thats what this board is for. If you'd rather use AIM "SS2K6L" i'll be happy to chat that way too.

-Andy