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Old 08-11-2005 | 03:49 PM
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i thought JBA made shorties too????isnt a shortie a shortie?
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ttt look at these and tell me if they'll work????and btw im calling dibs so dont even try to take em from me if theyll fit!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Edelb...spagenameZWD1V
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Yes those should fit, just be forwarned, that those are what I got and the flanges were different than the stock ones. I dont know why. Im wondering if they are truck headers as they seem to have the same wierd triange flange that my headers have.

Oh and I just used the buy it now to win those, sorry
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Old 08-11-2005 | 05:11 PM
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ttt look at these and tell me if they'll work????and btw im calling dibs so dont even try to take em from me if theyll fit!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Edelb...spagenameZWD1V

If you buy them and they do work make sure to let everyone know
Old 08-11-2005 | 06:11 PM
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ed they have the same flange that the stock Phamspeed kit has...the other Edelbrock headers have a wierd ball and socket flange from the pics ive seen in summit....and i hope u were kidding about buying them lol unless i dont find a better deal ill prolli get them....are they really going to make that much of a difference over the stock 02s???
Old 08-11-2005 | 06:25 PM
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are 00-02 stock headers the same???
Old 08-11-2005 | 09:04 PM
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DD,
Mine dont have a ball and socket flange.

I was just messing around about buying them, I already have mine
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Old 08-11-2005 | 09:18 PM
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huh?????then why did u have to get the crossover pipe changed....the 1's in summit show a balland flange whereas the 1's i just listed are just the tri flange
explain with pics!
Old 08-11-2005 | 09:29 PM
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i just looked at the pics of ur kit and the crossover pipe and the headers lok IDENTICAL to mine!the only reason i could see u have the have the crossover pipe changed is if u ordered a pre 00 kit..somebody help!
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I bought the jba headers for my 99 firehawk and im am saving up for the phamspeed turbo kit, I thought that you just put their kit on in place of everything, the jba headers are okay they're not great I dont think they were worth the time and money that I spent on them but if the phamspeed kit will work with them that's cool. I actually upgrading to the t76 kit.
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those should work.
the only thing that confuses me is im not sure the ones pictured are 2000-2002
as they have the egr ports on them dont 2001 and 2002 have no egr?
they look identical to my old 99 JBA shrotie headers
id email them to make sure you get the right year, as long as you get the right year they should fit.
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for the record jbas do fit just fine
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the pic i posted are Edelbrocks not JBA's and Ed said they had to modify his crossover pipe flanges to make them fit which doesnt make any sense....im going to take a few pics of my crossover pipe and post it and take a few pics of the 02 stock headers ive got and a pic of the Edelbrocks and maybe you guys can help me figure this out
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ok heres a pic a go of my crossover pipe.... notice the flanges where the 2 manifolds are supposed to meet. 1 is a small triangle shaped flange and the other is a much larger triangle shaped flange.. ..i went and looked at the stock 02 headers ive got sitting in the garage and they also have the same flanges so i know they'll fit.But do the edelbrocks or someone else have the same flanges?????

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that poor pool table! uuuhhhhggg... abuse.
Old 08-12-2005 | 10:59 AM
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at least you could see it then!now its just covered in car parts!
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i just finished talking to Edelbrock and showed them this pic of my crossover pip and they said itll mat up to it with no problems i just have to blockoff the EGR plugs...Ed please post and tell me what Phamspeed said they had to change cause after talking to Edelbrock i dont see how ur crossover pipe wouldnt fit with these headers....
Old 08-12-2005 | 01:24 PM
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ok ok ok,
Ill post some damn pics.

one doesnt go, but I like it anyway

Your lucky you keep your kit inside. I left mine in the garage and tere is surface rust all over it. I need to go get it either powdercoated or something. i think im going to try to paint it this weekend.
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Old 08-12-2005 | 01:32 PM
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mines been in my garage too...thats where the pool table is.....now take a look at the pic i posted of the flanges on my crossover pipe and take a look at this pic

the flanges are identical which is why i dont see the need for Phamspeed to change it....if you notice a difference please shout out but they look the same....even Edelbrock said they'd match....only reason i could see them having to change ur kit is if u ordered a pre 00 year crossover pipe
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well thats what I thought as well, however pham said there was no way the flanges they had would work. however they were missing a few years, it may have been due to that.

John said it was like nothing hed ever seen, and was kinda pissed, but I couldnt really see anything since i had the headers basically just shiped straight to him. we all know how he was to deal with on the phone and through e-mail. less than a pleasure.

thats the great news about GZM, they can handle the other stuff now. and john can stick to what hes good at, welding and fabbing.

hope those pics help ya DD, im just going off of what john said. It seems like youd be ok, the only way to know for sure is to just buy them and see what happens.


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