Who makes this supercharger!?
Thread Starter
!Dial-up Director
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 1
From: Louisiana
Who makes this supercharger!? 
Whipple talked about making one for the LS1 a while back, is this it?
Justin <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" />
[ December 12, 2001: Message edited by: Jsears8 ]</p>
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? pretty damn cool! That would give the ls1 one heck of a low end punch.Slick drive setup also.
I don't think it's a whipple though.
I think it's a Eaton/Magnuson blower.
sure looks like this unit to me- http://www.magnuson-products.com/mp1...generation.htm
Steve
I don't think it's a whipple though.
I think it's a Eaton/Magnuson blower.
sure looks like this unit to me- http://www.magnuson-products.com/mp1...generation.htm
Steve
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? LPE had a display at PRI that I missed...
Had two LS1s with (I heard) Lightning AM10 superchargers that are reverse mounted, are those pics from that?
[ December 12, 2001: Message edited by: Pro Stock John ]</p>
Had two LS1s with (I heard) Lightning AM10 superchargers that are reverse mounted, are those pics from that?
[ December 12, 2001: Message edited by: Pro Stock John ]</p>
Thread Starter
!Dial-up Director
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 1
From: Louisiana
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? Ok, I found it in LPEs catalog and it is a Magnacharger. I sent them an e-mail to get the details.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/main/LPEPDF1201.pdf (PAGE 8)
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...=197929&page=1
[ December 12, 2001: Message edited by: Jsears8 ]</p>
http://www.lingenfelter.com/main/LPEPDF1201.pdf (PAGE 8)
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...=197929&page=1
[ December 12, 2001: Message edited by: Jsears8 ]</p>
Trending Topics
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 979
Likes: 0
From: Richmond, VA Where fast cars, well......are hard to come by.
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? Awesome! Maybe it'll fit under a WS6 hood? I remember a long post on LS1.com way back when where somebody with some connections in the industry trying to get one of these made, but I believe a whipple couldn't be made because it was making too much compression or somthing like that. I'd really like to have a roots-type blower.
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />
9 Second Club
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,445
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? [quote]Originally posted by AzzHauler:
<strong>Awesome! Maybe it'll fit under a WS6 hood? I remember a long post on LS1.com way back when where somebody with some connections in the industry trying to get one of these made, but I believe a whipple couldn't be made because it was making too much compression or somthing like that. I'd really like to have a roots-type blower.
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
roots style = good luck fitting some form of intercooler on the car..... although it looks very very nice.
<strong>Awesome! Maybe it'll fit under a WS6 hood? I remember a long post on LS1.com way back when where somebody with some connections in the industry trying to get one of these made, but I believe a whipple couldn't be made because it was making too much compression or somthing like that. I'd really like to have a roots-type blower.
<img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
roots style = good luck fitting some form of intercooler on the car..... although it looks very very nice.
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: Where the banjo's play!
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? Those look like pictures from SEMA, that iss where I saw them and talked to them about selling them. The problem is they are made for 5PSI MAX, and I know that is not enough power for the cost. <img src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" border="0" alt="[devil]" />
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? [quote]Originally posted by Dave:
<strong>cut a hole in the hood...</strong><hr></blockquote>
It really doesn't appear to be that tall. It sits a little forward also, probably will miss the windshield base. I can't tell exactly, but that throttle body appears to be in the more or less stock location. It might work on an F-body. Only 5 lbs of boost is a bit of a let down though. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" /> Is that thing intercooled? <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
I think I'd have to have an intercooler. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: 1CAMWNDR ]</p>
<strong>cut a hole in the hood...</strong><hr></blockquote>
It really doesn't appear to be that tall. It sits a little forward also, probably will miss the windshield base. I can't tell exactly, but that throttle body appears to be in the more or less stock location. It might work on an F-body. Only 5 lbs of boost is a bit of a let down though. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">
<img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" /> Is that thing intercooled? <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
I think I'd have to have an intercooler. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: 1CAMWNDR ]</p>
TECH Resident
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 894
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? Don't those Roots/screw-type blowers move a lot more *volume* of air than the centrifugal blowers? This thing probably makes a full 5si at idle and would give you a lot of low-end torque.
TECH Resident
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 854
Likes: 0
From: san diego ca
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? keep in mind that the centrifugal blowers are VERY peaky (boost proportional to RPM squared); ATI fr'instance; makes essentially no boost below 3000 RPM and then whammo! <img src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" border="0" alt="[bullshit]" />
The Roots is more linear so you have the boost Right Now - fow me, mostly street driven application, this makes a lot more sense. For all-out drag racing, well, the centrifugal+intercooler looks good, but notice they all run Roots blowers on the really fast cars! <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
next question: how much and how soon?
gotta be expensive with that alloy intake manifold and Rube Goldberg pulley kludge
hey, if you need intercooling, a little nitrous goes a long way! <img src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" border="0" alt="[devil]" />
Okay, I may be as thick as a whale omelet, but if you have to alter the hood anyway, how about mounting the damned thing so that the pulley is in the front??
[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: Dave ]</p>
The Roots is more linear so you have the boost Right Now - fow me, mostly street driven application, this makes a lot more sense. For all-out drag racing, well, the centrifugal+intercooler looks good, but notice they all run Roots blowers on the really fast cars! <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" />
next question: how much and how soon?
gotta be expensive with that alloy intake manifold and Rube Goldberg pulley kludge
hey, if you need intercooling, a little nitrous goes a long way! <img src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" border="0" alt="[devil]" />
Okay, I may be as thick as a whale omelet, but if you have to alter the hood anyway, how about mounting the damned thing so that the pulley is in the front??
[ December 13, 2001: Message edited by: Dave ]</p>
9 Second Club
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,445
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? I dont see an intercooler in that picture so with a stock PCM and 10:1 motor, and and 91-93 octane your boost level cannot really go any high then 5 PSI, some thing are true, yes you will have instant boost, when you give it gas, this is one of the reason why GTP are so quick when lightly modded. also if you were to add an intercoolering you would be putting a peice of metal with a heat exchanger between the intake and the blower, thus rasing it up high, maybe maybe there is something down there Im not sure, but that would be awesome. the root style blower outputs an extreme amount of heat on the intake charge also, i think for some people this is gonna be a awesome solution. also about centrifugal blowers prucing boost below 3k rpms, i wouldnt want that anyway, that means you cant run as much boost, and when your racing your rpms are usually between 4-7k right? a turbo or a roots style blowers would be a awesome street setup, IMO
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
From: Woodlyn, PA
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? Roots types are very cool, but there is one disadvantage due to the way they produce boost. If you have a centrifugal type, and you don't want to boost, you don't have to. This saves gas and would undoubtedly prolong the life of your motor. Whereas the roots usualy have a violent spike of boost that is hard on gaskets and parts and happens right off idle.
Just a concern for us with daily driver blown F cars.
Cheers <img src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" border="0" alt="[chug]" />
Just a concern for us with daily driver blown F cars.
Cheers <img src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" border="0" alt="[chug]" />
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? speaking of intercoolers, last truck'n nat's i saw a jeep wrangler in a company booth with a kenne bell roots unit, after talking to the representative about how you can't go above 5 psi on that unit because of the lack of intercooling, i was surprised to know it was intercooled!!! the intercooler was a plate 1.5-2 inches high and was very efficient . so efficient that that jeep had stock internals and was pushing 8~9 lbs of boost!
now whaere they got it from , and if it is applicable here , i have no idea...
now whaere they got it from , and if it is applicable here , i have no idea...
9 Second Club
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,445
Likes: 0
From: Bay Area, CA
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? [quote]Originally posted by 1dirtyZ:
<strong>speaking of intercoolers, last truck'n nat's i saw a jeep wrangler in a company booth with a kenne bell roots unit, after talking to the representative about how you can't go above 5 psi on that unit because of the lack of intercooling, i was surprised to know it was intercooled!!! the intercooler was a plate 1.5-2 inches high and was very efficient . so efficient that that jeep had stock internals and was pushing 8~9 lbs of boost!
now whaere they got it from , and if it is applicable here , i have no idea...</strong><hr></blockquote>
if you have access to a machinist shop, you can make them, you need a heat exchange built in to it with two fitting a radiotor and a water pump to move the water, yes they are made, and they will also make hood clearance more of an issue with, after market hoods.
<strong>speaking of intercoolers, last truck'n nat's i saw a jeep wrangler in a company booth with a kenne bell roots unit, after talking to the representative about how you can't go above 5 psi on that unit because of the lack of intercooling, i was surprised to know it was intercooled!!! the intercooler was a plate 1.5-2 inches high and was very efficient . so efficient that that jeep had stock internals and was pushing 8~9 lbs of boost!
now whaere they got it from , and if it is applicable here , i have no idea...</strong><hr></blockquote>
if you have access to a machinist shop, you can make them, you need a heat exchange built in to it with two fitting a radiotor and a water pump to move the water, yes they are made, and they will also make hood clearance more of an issue with, after market hoods.
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? The dialog seems to go: if somebody decided to actually produce this bad boy, then you need an intercooler. Not exactly true.
You can do the same thing (or get the same effect) with Water Injection. This technology dates back to WWII fighter planes. And is used a lot, by the Supercharged Grand Prix community. Many other Turbo cars employe them, as well.
Check out this link:
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/
I know a good source in the US who has installed HUNDREDS of these products, I have one on my GTP and I am producing 14.5 pounds of boost vs. stock boost of 8-9 pounds. With NO side effects.
If you are having problems with KR (knock retard) after big engine mods. this could probably be a solution for you. Spray (okay fine mist) some water into the incoming air, mine is laced with methol alcohol! Reduce temps and the KR problem, you don't need an intercooler. No problem finding space to mount water injection system, you won't have to cut up your engine compartment to cool the incoming air.
Email me if you have questions.
Randy DeMeyer
You can do the same thing (or get the same effect) with Water Injection. This technology dates back to WWII fighter planes. And is used a lot, by the Supercharged Grand Prix community. Many other Turbo cars employe them, as well.
Check out this link:
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/
I know a good source in the US who has installed HUNDREDS of these products, I have one on my GTP and I am producing 14.5 pounds of boost vs. stock boost of 8-9 pounds. With NO side effects.
If you are having problems with KR (knock retard) after big engine mods. this could probably be a solution for you. Spray (okay fine mist) some water into the incoming air, mine is laced with methol alcohol! Reduce temps and the KR problem, you don't need an intercooler. No problem finding space to mount water injection system, you won't have to cut up your engine compartment to cool the incoming air.
Email me if you have questions.
Randy DeMeyer
On The Tree
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Re: Who makes this supercharger!? YEP , water/alky is the soloution.
I run 10psi boost on 10-1 stock pistons with no intercooler (vortech).
I use a custom built water/alky system and this alone drops charge temps by about 90 degrees and then the water/alky is a extremely potent anti detonation mix.
I use 100psi and a good mini atomizing nozzle to fog the mix into the intake.
This would be even easier to engineer on the roots blower as the rotors will atomize the mix very well.
Steve
I run 10psi boost on 10-1 stock pistons with no intercooler (vortech).
I use a custom built water/alky system and this alone drops charge temps by about 90 degrees and then the water/alky is a extremely potent anti detonation mix.
I use 100psi and a good mini atomizing nozzle to fog the mix into the intake.
This would be even easier to engineer on the roots blower as the rotors will atomize the mix very well.
Steve