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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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rpm mph timing KR O2b1 O2b2
1917 14 31 0 0.87 0.84
2517 19 28.5 0 0.87 0.87
3244 24 27 0 0.895 0.88
4035 30 17 0 0.895 0.895
4699 35 17 0 0.905 0.9
5930 45 17 1.4 0.905 0.875
5706 42 34 0 0.875 0.86
5314 53 15.5 1.2 0.9 0.89
5600 63 15.5 1.1 0.895 0.9
5638 62 15.5 1 0.88 0.865
5678 63 16 0.9 0.905 0.88
6228 70 16 0.9 0.915 0.905
5918 66 16 0.8 0.905 0.89
6352 71 16 0.6 0.875 0.675
6354 69 34 0 0.72 0.79
5717 72 17 0 0.865 0.87
5102 79 16 0.8 0.885 0.875
5332 82 16 0.6 0.885 0.87
5463 84 16 0.5 0.885 0.88
5726 88 16.5 0.4 0.895 0.875
6304 96 16.5 0.4 0.89 0.875
6189 94 16 0.9 0.88 0.865
5874 95 34 0 0.755 0.865
5271 103 13 3.9 0.895 0.88
5054 100 13 3.6 0.88 0.88
5207 103 13.5 3.3 0.88 0.875
5290 106 13.5 3.2 0.875 0.87
5457 108 13.5 3 0.875 0.87
5569 111 14 2.8 0.875 0.87
5759 116 14 2.6 0.885 0.87
5970 121 14.5 2.5 0.875 0.86
6035 121 13 3.7 0.875 0.865
6023 119 13.5 3.4 0.875 0.86
6166 122 13.5 3.3 0.87 0.87
6298 126 13 3.8 0.87 0.85
6354 126 13 4 0.855 0.845
6161 127 34 0 0.805 0.72
5612 132 14 2.6 0.885 0.87
4792 129 14 2.5 0.86 0.87
4832 130 14.5 2.3 0.87 0.855
4920 132 13.5 3.1 0.87 0.86
4970 134 14 2.9 0.86 0.86
5003 135 14 2.7 0.86 0.85
5077 136 14 2.5 0.86 0.86
5108 137 14.5 2.4 0.855 0.795
5008 135 34 0 0.87 0.825
4946 132 34 0 0.795 0.775
4808 128 34 0 0.145 0.495
4716 126 34
The L trims b1 were mostly in the 7's and L trims b2 were mostly in the 9's. Not really sure what to do with this. I was seeing up to 8.5 lbs of boost around 6000rpm. constructive opinions and advice would be appreciated.. Thanks Jason

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Old Jan 18, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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I know that they are kinda hard to cipher.. wish I knew how to put them on here better but I could sure use some advice right about now.. thanks Jason
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Old Jan 18, 2002 | 10:38 PM
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Ouch! Too Lean!!
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Old Jan 18, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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[code]rpm mph timing KR O2b1 O2b2
1917 14 31 0 0.87 0.84
2517 19 28.5 0 0.87 0.87
3244 24 27 0 0.895 0.88
4035 30 17 0 0.895 0.895
4699 35 17 0 0.905 0.9
5930 45 17 1.4 0.905 0.875
5706 42 34 0 0.875 0.86
5314 53 15.5 1.2 0.9 0.89
5600 63 15.5 1.1 0.895 0.9
5638 62 15.5 1 0.88 0.865
5678 63 16 0.9 0.905 0.88
6228 70 16 0.9 0.915 0.905
5918 66 16 0.8 0.905 0.89
6352 71 16 0.6 0.875 0.675
6354 69 34 0 0.72 0.79
5717 72 17 0 0.865 0.87
5102 79 16 0.8 0.885 0.875
5332 82 16 0.6 0.885 0.87
5463 84 16 0.5 0.885 0.88
5726 88 16.5 0.4 0.895 0.875
6304 96 16.5 0.4 0.89 0.875
6189 94 16 0.9 0.88 0.865
5874 95 34 0 0.755 0.865
5271 103 13 3.9 0.895 0.88
5054 100 13 3.6 0.88 0.88
5207 103 13.5 3.3 0.88 0.875
5290 106 13.5 3.2 0.875 0.87
5457 108 13.5 3 0.875 0.87
5569 111 14 2.8 0.875 0.87
5759 116 14 2.6 0.885 0.87
5970 121 14.5 2.5 0.875 0.86
6035 121 13 3.7 0.875 0.865
6023 119 13.5 3.4 0.875 0.86
6166 122 13.5 3.3 0.87 0.87
6298 126 13 3.8 0.87 0.85
6354 126 13 4 0.855 0.845
6161 127 34 0 0.805 0.72
5612 132 14 2.6 0.885 0.87
4792 129 14 2.5 0.86 0.87
4832 130 14.5 2.3 0.87 0.855
4920 132 13.5 3.1 0.87 0.86
4970 134 14 2.9 0.86 0.86
5003 135 14 2.7 0.86 0.85
5077 136 14 2.5 0.86 0.86
5108 137 14.5 2.4 0.855 0.795
5008 135 34 0 0.87 0.825
4946 132 34 0 0.795 0.775
4808 128 34 0 0.145 0.495
4716 126 34
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Old Jan 18, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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ok, easier to read like that <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

first question, stock tune?

sencond question, injectors??

MAF numbers might be nice too, and maybe gear.

The O2's aren't actually that bad. I run 890'ish and i'm wideband tuned for 12:1. so it's not that "lean"

Was this on pump gas??

judging by the timing numbers, and KR, and at 8 psi you need either 2 degress out at the RPM/load where the KR initiall starts. Or you need to run more octane.
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 12:20 AM
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Thanks Harlan I appreciate you re-writing them for me.. How in he!! did you do that?!!!
"STOCK TUNE?" Superchips programming
"Injectors?" 38's with in-line pump
"MAF #'s and Gear" running the stock maf with 3:73 gears,(Don't know if that will help ya)
I am running 93 octane pump gas.. Again thanks for the help.. Jason
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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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I vote for too lean. My o2s showed .925 when tuned to 12:1 showing you how they fluctuate from car to car. I'd try to richen it a tick with a maft or bump up the fuel pressure just a tick and see if the KR goes away. If neither of those options are readily available, you may want to try and reverse your maf as that has richened things up for some people. I wouldnt leave the maf like that forever....just try it and see if thats the problem. If not then you need more octane or less timing. When you get down to 1/4 tank, get a gallon of Xylene from the paint store and try that in the tank. Will cost you about 6 bux

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Old Jan 21, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by cablebandit:
<strong>I vote for too lean. My o2s showed .925 when tuned to 12:1 showing you how they fluctuate from car to car. I'd try to richen it a tick with a maft or bump up the fuel pressure just a tick and see if the KR goes away. If neither of those options are readily available, you may want to try and reverse your maf as that has richened things up for some people. I wouldnt leave the maf like that forever....just try it and see if thats the problem. If not then you need more octane or less timing. When you get down to 1/4 tank, get a gallon of Xylene from the paint store and try that in the tank. Will cost you about 6 bux

[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: cablebandit ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I do have a MAFT I will try richening it up a tick, and see if that cleans things up.. It seems that I am already running pretty low #'s as far as timing is concerned.. But I am no expert at this point. Still in the big learning curve.. What kinda timing do the rest of ya'll see at wot? Also are my Ltrims anything to be concerned about? Again thank you, Jason
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We are making the same power and I'm running 24 degrees of timing with 100 octane. I think I could run 93 octane if I dropped my timing to 16 like yours. I think you are just right on timing tho...at least not too high...maybe a little conservative.
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