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STS Results as promised....
STS Results as promised.... Ok guys... You can see my mods in the sig.
As she sits:
506.96 RWHP
623.04 Max TQ
Ran the 1/4 on street tires with best time of 12.89 ET.
60' 2.65
Traping 116 at the 1/4.
Not happy with the 1/4 run but there are alot of things that need to be tweaked and worked with. I have a Harlen 2-Step and the Cat replacement pipes so I can install it without burning the cats and shooting them through my turbo. I also have a 67 Trim turbo in route and a Carbon Fiber Drive shaft. All things said... my traps are not bad and the Dyno #'s are nice for a 60 Trim. Sean at FASTECH did a great job on the tune.... I am also going to run on some ET Streets next time instead of normal street tires.
Any and all input welcome!!
As she sits:
506.96 RWHP
623.04 Max TQ
Ran the 1/4 on street tires with best time of 12.89 ET.
60' 2.65
Traping 116 at the 1/4.
Not happy with the 1/4 run but there are alot of things that need to be tweaked and worked with. I have a Harlen 2-Step and the Cat replacement pipes so I can install it without burning the cats and shooting them through my turbo. I also have a 67 Trim turbo in route and a Carbon Fiber Drive shaft. All things said... my traps are not bad and the Dyno #'s are nice for a 60 Trim. Sean at FASTECH did a great job on the tune.... I am also going to run on some ET Streets next time instead of normal street tires.
Any and all input welcome!!
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wow you have spanked all other setups with the base turbo I have ever seen dyno wise. how many psi were you seeing?
yet only trapping 116? I trapped 117 with 420rwhp when I had my powerdyne with a 2.4 60' on street tires. your quarter mile stats and dyno #'s dont jive at all. I would expect 120+ with those type of dyno results.
can you post the sheet? would love to see the curve. you better go buy 60# injectors as well, no way 42's are enough if it's truely making that much power.
yet only trapping 116? I trapped 117 with 420rwhp when I had my powerdyne with a 2.4 60' on street tires. your quarter mile stats and dyno #'s dont jive at all. I would expect 120+ with those type of dyno results.
can you post the sheet? would love to see the curve. you better go buy 60# injectors as well, no way 42's are enough if it's truely making that much power.
Yea that is what I was thinking too... My original HP#'s were 431/497. I havent changed the tune but I have noticed a gradual increase in percived power over the last 2 weeks. I am not sure what would cause the change in Dyno #'s between now and then, but I have also read alot of people that have Dyno'd at FASTECH lower then they dyno anywhere else. I wanted to test the theory and you see the results. I will scan the dyno run and attach it on monday.
My boost climbs right to 9lbs and maintains a good A/F ratio of 12.3:1. I also know that my Track times were off due to high humidity, 150lbs of crap in the trunk (Still had the stock heads, cam, clutch, flywheel in car) and running on regular street tires. Give me two weeks and I will have another track run. A great install by Billy at Texas Rear Turbos and good tune by Sean at FASTECH
Other then that... I attribute it alot to the LP GT-7 Cam and LQ9 Heads... I talked to the guys at LP and this was the reccomended setup. Looks like it works well!
My boost climbs right to 9lbs and maintains a good A/F ratio of 12.3:1. I also know that my Track times were off due to high humidity, 150lbs of crap in the trunk (Still had the stock heads, cam, clutch, flywheel in car) and running on regular street tires. Give me two weeks and I will have another track run. A great install by Billy at Texas Rear Turbos and good tune by Sean at FASTECH
Other then that... I attribute it alot to the LP GT-7 Cam and LQ9 Heads... I talked to the guys at LP and this was the reccomended setup. Looks like it works well!
James: Yea I ran it at temple last Friday.... and Dyno'd it at Sunshine today (Sat). (When I called ya)
Blackbird: You dont think that the 42's are going to be enough? I knew that when I go to a 402 that I would have to up my Injectors, but with my stock lower, 42# and a walbro 255 I thought I would be good. When I install the 67 Trim I will back off the boost to keep it at 8# or less.... It is still a stock block (although from what I understand because I installed the LQ9 Heads it droped my CR and would allow more boost) I am curious what Zombie thinks.. I am kinda chasing him and his "Push the stock block to its limits" theory.
Blackbird: You dont think that the 42's are going to be enough? I knew that when I go to a 402 that I would have to up my Injectors, but with my stock lower, 42# and a walbro 255 I thought I would be good. When I install the 67 Trim I will back off the boost to keep it at 8# or less.... It is still a stock block (although from what I understand because I installed the LQ9 Heads it droped my CR and would allow more boost) I am curious what Zombie thinks.. I am kinda chasing him and his "Push the stock block to its limits" theory.
Last edited by longrange4u; Oct 8, 2005 at 09:40 PM.
sweet numbers I bet that torque must feel nice.....I also would like to see the dyno sheet....How much boost when you made that power?
Originally Posted by Blackbird
wow you have spanked all other setups with the base turbo I have ever seen dyno wise. how many psi were you seeing?
yet only trapping 116? I trapped 117 with 420rwhp when I had my powerdyne with a 2.4 60' on street tires. your quarter mile stats and dyno #'s dont jive at all. I would expect 120+ with those type of dyno results.
can you post the sheet? would love to see the curve. you better go buy 60# injectors as well, no way 42's are enough if it's truely making that much power.
yet only trapping 116? I trapped 117 with 420rwhp when I had my powerdyne with a 2.4 60' on street tires. your quarter mile stats and dyno #'s dont jive at all. I would expect 120+ with those type of dyno results.
can you post the sheet? would love to see the curve. you better go buy 60# injectors as well, no way 42's are enough if it's truely making that much power.
Yea, when the turbo spools up completely it is like a rocket ship. I love it. I will try to get this Dyno sheet scanned and posted ASAP.
I hit my max TQ at 3900Rpms and my max HP at 4800... the HP curve is nice... Gets above 480 at 4000 and stays there through 5600... curve gets a little slopy then (Wondering if its valve float even with 918 springs).
I hit my max TQ at 3900Rpms and my max HP at 4800... the HP curve is nice... Gets above 480 at 4000 and stays there through 5600... curve gets a little slopy then (Wondering if its valve float even with 918 springs).
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DId I read that right? You gained about 70 rwhp just by going to a different dyno? If you look at your original numbers of 430ish rwhp, that jives better with your mph. I wonder if your second dyno was off?? Your power up top is probably sloppy because of the 60-1! In any event, the stuff you have coming will help you tremendously. I added the 2 step, and my first run I cut off .4 off my 60'. Keep at it, it takes some timt to get them right. Maybe one day I'll get mine right!
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NYSS Guy: Hahaha Yea you read that right... I am sure that there are guys that are just waiting to throw the BS flag.... but I am just telling you what the Dyno tells me. As for your comments.... I think your right... we will see if the Dyno was off as I will make another run with the 60 trim (Because I want to see if the dyno's are off or if this cam is making great power) then I will install the 67 Trim.
Guys... I have no reason to lie... this is all about trying to make my car better and share with you the lessons I learn. That is how I made the decisions that I have made, based largely upon the lessons that I have learned from all of you. I love my turbo.... wither its making 300RWHP or 600RWHP would not trade it. I am just hoping that I can give back to the community that gave to me and helped me make the decisions that I made.
I promise that I will try to get the Dyno sheet posted ASAP. Give me a week and I will have a much more accurate Track run as well. Many of you think the dyno is off... I believe that the track run is off. I think I am running more than 431 to the wheels... but we will see... the track tells all.
Guys... I have no reason to lie... this is all about trying to make my car better and share with you the lessons I learn. That is how I made the decisions that I have made, based largely upon the lessons that I have learned from all of you. I love my turbo.... wither its making 300RWHP or 600RWHP would not trade it. I am just hoping that I can give back to the community that gave to me and helped me make the decisions that I made.
I promise that I will try to get the Dyno sheet posted ASAP. Give me a week and I will have a much more accurate Track run as well. Many of you think the dyno is off... I believe that the track run is off. I think I am running more than 431 to the wheels... but we will see... the track tells all.
12.3/1 is waaay too lean! I would fatten it up to 11.5/1 for the turbo. You risk the possibility of taking out #7 piston.
The mph numbers are indeed low for reported rwhp, as you suspect. Your car should be in the 124 to 126 mph range for the rwhp numbers that you posted. Keep us posted on how it does your next time out. Bob
The mph numbers are indeed low for reported rwhp, as you suspect. Your car should be in the 124 to 126 mph range for the rwhp numbers that you posted. Keep us posted on how it does your next time out. Bob
longonb4u dynos are for pretty boys the track tells it all did sunshine pre load it??? if so that is why you pick up more power you should have seen what load your pcm had on the motor mines was around 93% if i can recall and it made 520 580 so i just might have gain a little respect for that weird cam by the way i toasted my clutch yesterday thats buulshit but i have to work the bugs now i hope to make 700+ to the grnd i will know at the end of this month and for all the guys that want to wave th bs flag on longgonb4u he has no reason to lie he is not out to conqure the world in small words he is not an *** who thinks he got the fastest car in the world mustang boys are!!!!
longrange4u, you're gonna need that 2 step to launch the car better. You may be able to improve your times, but not a huge amount. I haven't heard of anyone cutting sub 2.0 60's without it. Also, I agree with Bob, you should probably richen it up to around 11.5:1. This setup tends to spool better running a bit rich too. Good luck.
Thanks Outlawz... Hahah I told you to have more faith in the Lingenfelter cam!! 
Bob, NYSS: You know now that you mention it that is a bit leaner than what it was originaly tuned by Sean Frost at FASTECH, that could explain the #'s change? It was originaly 11.6:1 I belive. What would cause my motor to lean out on its own? Just the break in of all new mods? I will have it richened up when I add the Cat bypass pipes and the 2-Step, gotta have the tune adjusted for that and the 67 trim any ways.
Bob, NYSS: You know now that you mention it that is a bit leaner than what it was originaly tuned by Sean Frost at FASTECH, that could explain the #'s change? It was originaly 11.6:1 I belive. What would cause my motor to lean out on its own? Just the break in of all new mods? I will have it richened up when I add the Cat bypass pipes and the 2-Step, gotta have the tune adjusted for that and the 67 trim any ways.
do the ls1's need to be tuned that rich? i have always shot for a 11.9-12.3 a/f on all the FI 4 cylinder cars i have done, and was gonna shoot for the same on my TTLQ4....do they need to be that rich?
Originally Posted by cav101
do the ls1's need to be tuned that rich? i have always shot for a 11.9-12.3 a/f on all the FI 4 cylinder cars i have done, and was gonna shoot for the same on my TTLQ4....do they need to be that rich?
How accurate is it dynoing a Turbo car w/o being able to load it? Nice dyno numbers. I see your run is only a little quicker than my buddies STS, but the mph is killing his (13.01 @ 107 IIRC).
It might be in the afr machine ic shawn dident plug in the wide band it self into your ory then it may show a differnt reading and be for warned when you remove your cats your car will sound like a mac truck i hate the way mine sound but i have zo6 manafolds and i think u have long tubes im not sure but dam good numbers i knew there was no way i had more power with less mods ohh my brother work up a two step for lsx motors its base around the one he uses on his 700 hp 300 zx he said on trons fire hawk with an sts he made full boost 15 psi of the line and ran 10.00 with a 1.70 sixty he is sending me the hardware and soft ware for it when i test it out i will give the results but on his it sounds like a nhra car