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Old 10-20-2005, 06:54 PM
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Old 10-20-2005, 06:59 PM
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Wow! Those are some great numbers. Overall from start to finish how much time did it take?

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Pretty damn impressive! Well I can rest knowing that my cam will work with a turbo just fine. Mine was left over from when I had an ATI D1 on the car. Its a 233/244 .578/.602 on a 115 lsa, similar to what you are running in the camaro.

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:52 PM
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good numbers with sts kit, impressive
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Nice peak #'s. But a 382 with a 67 and on a loaded dyno "ala mustang dyno" I would expect peak torque (peak boost) to come in sooner then 5K. Looks like the cam is bleeding a good bit of boost. The big duration is costing you some big numbers down low...
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awesome numbers....how much timing?
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Hey Bob, I didn't see on your site...what are the specs on the turbo? I saw it's the 67, but what a/r?
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Also.......got any vids???
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Jose, why do you correleate peak tq with peak boost / or full spool you said in another thread?
It's been shown again and again not to be the case.
I can show you my datalogs that full boost is present by 3200 and I sure as heck doubt thats where my peak torque is. Will know in a few weeks when I hop on the dyno. Many other members state full spool well before tq peak.
Also why must you dog every setup except a PTK equipped car? Not very professional at all. Believe me your probably hurting your bottom line more than helping. I know if I ever went front mount I would NOT buy PTK based on your attitude and constant trash talking.

Oh and more importantly. Congrats Bob! Guess these little STS's aren't so bad after all huh
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I was not ******* the setup....not at all. If they are good numbers then great...in this case great peak #'s like I said. The area of the curve is not. Truth hurts... If I didn't post it, someone else would. I also stated the cam is hurting the setup. I know rear mount guys are protective about their setups, but look at the facts and the results for what they are. No one is saying not to do them or ...yadda..yadds. But when a 346 or bigger V8 engine has a dyno curve of a Supra, then what do you expect people to say? We deal with rear mount kits ALOT, and have a few improvements we are working on for customers. Most of them realize the facts, and are here to learn and make their setups better not just agree with the crowds.

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Great job, Exotic, that's very good numbers!

Thanks, Jose, for your comments. A different viewpoint from good experience is always an asset.
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TeeKay thanks. BTW, we worked on a rear mount LS1 car that swapping from a big blower cam to an LS6 cam picked up a HUGE amount on the bottom end from 2500-4000rpms. But then again that will apply to a front mount turbo kit also. I believe Mightymouse is in the middle of this as well, as I believe he is swapping back to a milder cam as well.

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I know I havent ran high boost yet but I'm bone stock and I made 520tq at 4200rpm not even with max timing, whats wrong with that? My power curve isnt like a supra either


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I was not ******* the setup....not at all. If they are good numbers then great...in this case great peak #'s like I said. The area of the curve is not. Truth hurts... If I didn't post it, someone else would. I also stated the cam is hurting the setup. I know rear mount guys are protective about their setups, but look at the facts and the results for what they are. No one is saying not to do them or ...yadda..yadds. But when a 346 or bigger V8 engine has a dyno curve of a Supra, then what do you expect people to say? We deal with rear mount kits ALOT, and have a few improvements we are working on for customers. Most of them realize the facts, and are here to learn and make their setups better not just agree with the crowds.

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Originally Posted by socalstreetracer
I know I havent ran high boost yet but I'm bone stock and I made 520tq at 4200rpm not even with max timing, whats wrong with that? My power curve isnt like a supra either
if you read what Jose said he was suggesting that it might perform better with a smaller cam.
you have a stock cam right?


please people lets keep this thread civil.

good work EPP!
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Thanks everyone! This car breaks the tires loose on M/T drag radials in 3rd gear on the road, and has a camshaft that has a great sound. This is what the customer was looking for. Turbo's normally do indeed produce better low end results with a milder cam, but the camshaft we installed still produces good low end response, and sounds awesome.
This car is now seriously traction plagued, turbo spool time is very quick, I am indeed totally amazed. We plan on taking this SS to our local 1/4 mile track next Wednesday, as long as the weather cooperates. Bob
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Originally Posted by Blackbird
Jose, why do you correleate peak tq with peak boost / or full spool you said in another thread?
It's been shown again and again not to be the case.
I can show you my datalogs that full boost is present by 3200 and I sure as heck doubt thats where my peak torque is. Will know in a few weeks when I hop on the dyno. Many other members state full spool well before tq peak.
Also why must you dog every setup except a PTK equipped car? Not very professional at all. Believe me your probably hurting your bottom line more than helping. I know if I ever went front mount I would NOT buy PTK based on your attitude and constant trash talking.

Oh and more importantly. Congrats Bob! Guess these little STS's aren't so bad after all huh

I am indeed quite amazed at how quickly this car spools. Everyone at my shop is! This car erupts into instant wheelspin at the suggestion of wide open throttle! Thanks! Bob
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Originally Posted by socalstreetracer
awesome numbers....how much timing?
Thanks, we have the timing at 18 degrees. Bob
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Originally Posted by silversweetZ
Wow! Those are some great numbers. Overall from start to finish how much time did it take?

-Travis
Thanks! Really hard to say, as we jumped back and forth to other cars as we waited on parts. Bob
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Nice peak #'s. But a 382 with a 67 and on a loaded dyno "ala mustang dyno" I would expect peak torque (peak boost) to come in sooner then 5K. Looks like the cam is bleeding a good bit of boost. The big duration is costing you some big numbers down low...
Possibly... Keep in mind that this car is an automatic and has a loose convertor. The loose convertor most likely allows the rpm to ramp up without loading it as quick in the lower rpm ranges, meaning it affects the spool time. It works great on the street but it more than likely plays with the chassis dyno numbers. Bob
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Hey Bob, any specs on the turbo??


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