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Old May 24, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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I need to pick intercooler for my setup. Cutting the bird out of the front bumper is out of questions, so it has to be installed horizontally. Green box – it’s the opening that I have, where cold air passes thru. It is 6” wide. The rest – poor airflow, but can fit up to 11” tall IC.

honda civic IC24x6x3 fits there perfect. the only problem that I have is that this IC has low CFM (even eBay rate them at 300hp MAX). I'm shooting for 550+ rwhp.


So, here are the 3 options that I have:
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It fits in opening, 100% of the core gets the air thru.

a) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FMIC-...QQcmdZViewItem

b) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/INTER...6777QQtcZphoto

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75% airflow thru the core. Note, there is the way for air to go around without cooling.

a) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Inter...temZ8068736357

b) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/28-x7...hippingPayment


3.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FMIC-...temZ8066914918

now, I really like this one, it has 3 times more fins, high efficiency and this is the way to go according to the Corky Bell , the only problem here is that end tank takes 50% of the opening.. But there is no way air goes around without cooling.

What do you guys think?
Which style would be the most efficient?

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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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Sorry did not read the full post.

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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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what are you talking about?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Why not call high flow and ask what intercooler they use and the bracketry and stuff. Their intercooler is mounted like that.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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http://www.hifloturbosystems.com/ ? website down..

opinions?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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isnt that how air gets to the Radiator and if you block that wouldnt that cause a rather large increase in heating issues?
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Yes , thats the radiator opening.
it shouldnt couse heating issues , as radiator efficency(air to water) is way higher than IC(air to air).
Also it is 50" wide , so im not completly blocking it. any other options (besides ATI)?
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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silly question, but why even go with forced induction if your goal is only 400-450 crank HP? You can hit higher than that with a simple cam and header swap.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Let me fix that for you
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Old May 24, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Here's a Firebird with what appears to be ample air flow to a front mount
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Old May 24, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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yes , but this is custom bumper , Im not gonna cut mine.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 05:34 PM
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Sometimes you can't have it both ways. Being that you are looking at 550 rwhp, the Procharger twin intercooler set up would work fine for you. This way you'll have ample cooling without cutting your bumper.

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Originally Posted by ddnspider
isnt that how air gets to the Radiator and if you block that wouldnt that cause a rather large increase in heating issues?
I totally agree... with the cooling problems alot of people have i wouldnt trust that as far asi can throw it.....
With my FMIC on my car even with the Procharger i would see a 20 degree rise in coolant temps with the cover on over with it off.over 200 degrees. and this was with it only about 80 out side at night.



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Sometimes you can't have it both ways. Being that you are looking at 550 rwhp, the Procharger twin intercooler set up would work fine for you. This way you'll have ample cooling without cutting your bumper.
Yep sometimes you have to make exseptions to reach goals.......
Sounds to me like the ATI IC's R 4 U.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark98SS
Here's a Firebird with what appears to be ample air flow to a front mount
Its a rearmount and the owner I belive makes those bumpers.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Not to hijack this thread but on topic with it, I have a 99 formula and I am going w/a truck mani setup very soon. Will cutting the squareliek area w/the firebird out be sufficient for airflow to the fmic?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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I hope you are just using those ebay coolers as size examples. You get what you pay for
I have a Spearco from a honda kit that I'm selling Same size as the ones on ebay but flows a hell of a lot more
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Originally Posted by OUTLAWZ RACING
Its a rearmount and the owner I belive makes those bumpers.
Too funny
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Old May 25, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
silly question, but why even go with forced induction if your goal is only 400-450 crank HP? You can hit higher than that with a simple cam and header swap.

if i'm not mistaken... it's for his v6
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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Here it is, with mounts installed:



In process:




Almost finished:

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Is this running yet? How's the radiator temperature on a hot day?
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